*official Matrix Chat* Reloaded & Revolution Chat

**thegroggman** · 05-18-2003, 10:30 PM

how did the oracle and the creator of the matrix know that he was dreaming about trinity if he was supposed to be in the real world

...Maybe hes not in the real world

[looks around nervously] Or maybe when someone hooks up to the Matrix their thoughts are somehow downloaded. Oh I know that Phesperone (sp?) can read minds, thoughts, desires, etc. just by kissing someone. So who knows, Im sure that'll be explained in the next one.

**BLMS** · 05-18-2003, 10:36 PM

what did the spoon symbolize? in the first one it symbolized something thats part of the matrix and isn't real? how could it also be in zion unless it was a different spoon or maybe it further confirms the theory zion is a double matrix

**XSpikeX** · 05-18-2003, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by BLMS@18 May 2003 - 22:36
what did the spoon symbolize? in the first one it symbolized something thats part of the matrix and isn't real? how could it also be in zion unless it was a different spoon or maybe it further confirms the theory zion is a double matrix

Jeese, don't overthink this. The kid in the original matrix who bent the spoon was a real human. He was in zion and just decided to send it to Neo for good luck.

**4play** · 05-18-2003, 10:40 PM

the spoon was a sign from that kid you showed that it did not exsist in the matrix.

It was not the same spoon because it was very roughly made.

And it is an intersting point about being able to read his thoughs. if he was in the matrix in zion they would know exactly what they are all up to.

the machines would be very jeolous that they could not have a rave like that.

**thegroggman** · 05-18-2003, 11:12 PM

the machines would be very jeolous that they could not have a rave like that.

ROFL...LOL...Just the thought of machines being 'jealous'. LOL...that just cracks me up. On a more serious note, its interesting that all the machines lack any type of emotion (except for the rogue programs) oh and Agent Smith who is a rogue now, but even in the first Matrix...he was ...well a bit out there,

I hate this place. This zoo. This prison. This reality, whatever you want to call it, I can't stand it any longer. It's the smell, if there is such a thing. I feel saturated by it. I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I've somehow been infected by it.

. Oh well just thought I decided to throw in.

**Schmiggy_JK23** · 05-18-2003, 11:50 PM

Originally posted by scruge@18 May 2003 - 15:30
What's with Neo's attitude towards the boy?

Watch the animatrix shorts, then you will see where the kid came from... he was in one of those, and they tied him in to the movie...

**lunatacs** · 05-19-2003, 01:34 AM

yeah that was a nice short films, surely explained alot for me.

*off topic*

i saw two animatrix, one 1G and the other one is 4G, whats the difference? (besides the size duh lol)
more films included in the other? information? new stuff?

**scruge** · 05-19-2003, 02:03 AM

i just watched it again, I couldn't figure out the part when they first returned to Zion why the control room that let them in was all super white and modern, but Zion was a piss hole of a place. The people were dirty and using torches and all the hover craft looked like they were falling apart from rust.

Another part was when Neo enters the white room and the monitors zoom out from what looked like a solar system. Could the white room have been aboard a space craft? Remember the keymaker comments the floor Neo needs to go to can not be reached by stair or elevator, maybe he had to be teleported?

**lunatacs** · 05-19-2003, 02:25 AM

**Sarcasimo** · 05-19-2003, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by scruge@19 May 2003 - 02:03
i just watched it again,  I couldn't figure out the part when they first returned to Zion why the control room that let them in was all super white and modern, but Zion was a piss hole of a place.  The people were dirty and using torches and all the hover craft looked like they were falling apart from rust. 

If you watch right before they cut to that nice white "control" room, you will see those people that were in the "control" room were plugged into a Construct. (like the training programs except this one made to control Zion) It would make sense to control Zion from a construct like that to save on resources, and allow for better control.

**Edit**
Changed my wording a little