*official Matrix Chat* Reloaded & Revolution Chat

[hotindew]

yes now u can die happy

[Ma5t3rM1nD]

Well what are you complaining down? Movies have been like this for the past few hundred years most people want to have a happy ending to a movie/story but they are twisting the endings a lot around nowdays the main characters are dying in the end their isn't always a happy ending. But people don't want to see that they want to see a good movie with a lot happening in between and have it evenly balanced throughout the movie then have the hero win at the end why do you think comic characters, wrestling etc . . . are so popular nowdays. If you don't like the endings of these movies it's simple don't watch them!

[M|k0r]

I have an idea on why smith took over that bloke with the goatee and then used to the hardline to "seemingly escape" the matrix.

What is the thing that smith wants the most? It is to kill Neo. Well as Smith knows he cannot destroy Neo in the Matrix as Neo is far more powerful. He merged into a body and then hardlined out so that he could kill Neo OUTSIDE the Matrix. As this is the only possible way he can do it as Neo and Smith are both "only human"

Another possibility is that the Architect said that they are getting more efficient and are finding more ways to get rid of the anomoly (Neo) So Smith becoming new and not an agent and being able to replicate himself is all set up by the Matrix/Architect as a new and improved way of getting rid of "the one" because in the first Matrix Neo destroyed Smith. The Matrix brang Smith back as it was a good idea and could use him for other ways. e.g. maybe smith is a backup a barebone with no real code, sort of like a worm virus.

So now the Matrix brang back Smith to be a sort of assassin and get out of the Matrix to kill Neo outside. Something to back this up further was Smith trying to replicate himself over Morpheous. Because if Smith could get outside the Matrix in Morpheouses body then he would have no trouble in killing Neo.

Anyway thats enough thinking for me for one day...

[crazy_billy_bats]

no need to be cheeky.

i do like them and i do watch them.

sometimes it might be ok for the bad guy to win, thats all.....
Such as 24, great series, bad things actually happen in it, such as Jack's wife dying and the President getting a gammy hand.
Bit off topic but im binned what do you expect.

well i hope more happens in Revolutions and not so much complete inane babbling throughout the whole film.
I understand the whole idea of the matrix is philosophical, but it was ridiculous the language that was used in it. the idea of it also is that there is cool ass robots trying to kill people in cool ways. lets see more of that stuff !!!
What is there......3 or 4 major good action scenes in Reloaded?
Ok one is the immense highway scence but the rest....left a wee bit to be desired, and i reckon there could have been more use of bullet time and action scences.
Dont get me wrong though, i enjoyed the film. Not worth paying to see again in the cinema, tho.
the centropy copy will suffice for now

[Afronaut]

I can reveal couple of mysteries.

Architect is actually Bill Gates

What is the Matrix? It is Windows XXXP

jk

Cool talking going on in this tread, i'll be watching the movie again, and a gain...
...if i come up with some stuff you guys have not, i'll post it in here.
Cheers:
-GS-

[tringer]

what i think is Zion is actually another matrix!!! like another layer of code, which at the opening credits you see the screen go into the code, then another, then the watch.

aslo at the end of the film when neo stops the sentinels he says "Somethings different" and stops the sentinels, because he knows he's still in a matrix, another layer of it anyway.

When the Architect babbles on he says that "we (the machines) have been destroying zion for ages" or summin like that, so i think the Matrix developed another layer, with Zion in so they can run training progs to figure the best way to destroy the REAL Zion.

When Bane is overwritten by Smith at the beginning, Smith stays in Banes mind when he leaves, so when bane is cutting himself its actually Smith, like hes seeing what HUMAN emotion is like.


The Wachowski brothers said that there was no Matrix within a Matrix. But it isnt like there is a big Matrix Little Matrix. Its two Matrixes parallell to each other, never dirrectly touching each other. See so like, the matrix that NEO and everyone inhabits is actually like another Layer or Parallel version

the matrix within the matrix stuff is shown to us in the first 30seconds of the movie look at the pull back through the code layers on the intro one pulls back to another layer of code then pulls back to the clock in the guards offices.

and this is just confirmed when he stops the sentinal end the end of the film "somethings changed".

As for all this bane smith stuff

yes smith jumped systems in to bane or the zion system why because he has gone rogue or just doing his job (read on).

If you look at systems as a whole here we go

the neo program is a bug but a required bug for the system to function correctly, the bug/neo is controlled/guide back to the source/core after a set time cycle to do 2 things reset/reload the matrix and zero the fault.

So the program can run again

it,s like error build up

Smith is the system way of trying to counter act this fault now here is the clever bit as neo gets strong/greater/smarter so will smith to counter act him.

but in reloaded the matrix failed to reboot so now we have moved passed all the fail safes of the system and on to virgin territory and now have an unstable system Why be cause the neo program has learned how to over ride the protection/ the random factor.

i have done this kind of error control on programs i have written for control systems the errors build up you can,t get ride of it but you can counter act it and then when a set time or tolerance is reached you reset the system normally manually by reboot. and ever thing start again

where i find the matrix fun is they have used standard system pricples and applied to a film script.

remmeber it,s machines we are dealing with.

zion is another error loop for minor errors people who really will not take the program but the neo program is the major bug they could not program out .

if you want to go into more depth about why smith replicants and more system stuff read Godel,Escher and Bach.... it all in there

THIS BASICALLY SUMS IT ALL UP FOR YOU

[Ham]

oh man that better not be the ending. no way...its just far too obvious?! there is no way they are goin to let us walk into the cinema and then just show us what we already know.

the previous two matrix films have both shocked and suprised, and i doubt that the third is goin to be any less confusing and suprising as its prequals....

ull walk in thinkin 'yea i know wats goin on, i know wats gonna happen' ull walk out thinkin 'ok.....wtf ?!!!!'

HOPEFULLY!!! Ham

[crazy_billy_bats]

Im sure there will be some shocks, a few surprises.
the story of the matrix at the moment lacks any real depth, people are just plucking at strings here. it changes too much and doesnt make any sense at the moment. thats the point, itll all become aparant in november
But itll all finish with neo fuckin trinity in a meadow somewhere surrounded by beautiful sunshine .
ROTK will rule its ass...easy.
altho im sure itll be a classic.

[silverccrow]

people do not identify with neo beacause people dont live a hacker live thats why all of u dont realize this film is great

just think for a moment a hacker as a superhero thats right out of this world thats why i love this movie it has a lot osf sense 2 me binary shit and everything like trinity hacking in linux

that was great if u understand hacking u will now that the program that trinity use 2 hack the terminal really exists

amazing isnt !

[crazy_billy_bats]

"hackers"? that is ridiculous. anyone and everyone thinks they are a hacker.

I for one wouldt mind being one, but have never tried, nor will i ever.
you are just silly. stop it. stop being silly.
really

hackers are quite nerdy and cool at the same time im sure, i have no idea. but im adament that YOU are not one