*official Matrix Chat* Reloaded & Revolution Chat

**Stonecoldfreak1** · 05-17-2003, 10:02 AM

SPOILER so eh fuck off

yeah the guy on the ship says there was 1 survivor... it shows neo then shows the survivor... the guy with the goatee

**RedRival** · 05-17-2003, 10:18 AM

Just watched the show, and I have to say it appeared pretty confusing at the end. The music playing up as the goatee dude was shown at the last part made my friend went "WTF!?". I had guessed that Agent Smith was the goatee guy since no sane human (in the real world) would so something so senseless as to cut himselves. I was all for the SFX and action and I missed out most of the dialogue like the french guy (M-person) defeating "5 previous the ones" that I only found after browsing through this board. I think that Agent Smith didn't enjoy being 'trapped' in the human body (but had no choice, he had to enter zion one way or another) so he was cutting himself, don't think the blood would do much.

Yes, this thread is a good read indeed, please keep it up peeps

. It resolved some of the questions I faced when Neo destroyed the 5 sentinels near the end of the film in the REAL world and that is what puzzled me. So i read through the board and found 2 possible explanations for that which I thought was appropriate.

One being, Neo was infected with a bit of Agent SMith's powers in the first Matrix and somehow became part machine due to that. Given his flying abilities etc... and so he had a relationship with the machines one way or another and somehow merging both his powers and that relationship he was able to get rid of the machines.

Second being, it was a matrix inside the matrix and Neo was that 99.9% who did not accept the program and thus was able to use his powers inside the "REAL world Matrix" as well. I thought this two theories could be what we will encounter in the Matrix Revolutions guys!!

Keep this up, nice read and hope to read more.

**RedRival** · 05-17-2003, 01:26 PM

Argh talking about the trailer... I missed it!! Just walked out when the credits rolled. Damnit now I have to download it off some website with my gay download speeds my ADSL service is giving me

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**Schmiggy_JK23** · 05-17-2003, 05:21 PM

Now, ive noticed this... the trailer that runs after the movie, is seemingly different then the popular one online.... the one online starts with niobi and ghost, talking... and a has some different shots, where the other one, the on after reloaded, does not...

any one seen the one that aired right after the movie online? not totally different, as i have seen the theater one twice... but it is somewhat, strange that that would happen...

**thegroggman** · 05-17-2003, 05:22 PM

Im pretty sure that the trailer that has surfaced online is off of the Matrix game. I actually prefer the game one to the one that was shown after Reloaded

**lunatacs** · 05-17-2003, 05:36 PM

when Neo destroyed the 5 sentinels near the end of the film in the REAL world and that is what puzzled me

before he destroyed them, he said "this feels different"

in my opinion and some others on this thread, did they ever leave the matrix? remember the last guy taking, in room full of tvs? he said, as long as we give people choices,options, they wouldn't care or know what is really happining? maybe all this revolt, is simply giving them what they want, to keep them happy but yet under control as always.

As for smith, he became his own program, as he said, he is not part of the system or the matrix, but something better. for two reasons that man with a gotee is smith. One he lived and two, it's the same person smith copyed himself into if you saw it in neo dream, since now, neo can see the future.

**thegroggman** · 05-17-2003, 05:41 PM

Yup the highly debated 'double-matrix' theory. It sure does answer a whole lot of questions. And besides if it wasnt true how would it have been possible for Smith to have come in the Zion world? Then again

he is not part of the system or the matrix, but something better

what if Zion is the real world, and the ability to stop machines is something Neo gained from agent Smith (or possibly the Mainframe). And referring to your quote, what if by something 'better' Smith meant that he had somehow become a machine/human hybrid. It would explain his ability to come to the real world.

**Schmiggy_JK23** · 05-17-2003, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by lunatacs@17 May 2003 - 12:36
in my opinion and some others on this thread, did they ever leave the matrix? remember the last guy taking, in room full of tvs? he said, as long as we give people choices,options, they wouldn't care or know what is really happining? maybe all this revolt, is simply giving them what they want, to keep them happy but yet under control as always.

Good point! Think about it... i havent watched it again to check and see... but didnt every time they were in the matrix, we someone at least hard wire out? For the final scene, we do not see this... yet, they are there, in the supposed "real world".... did they even leave... good question...

**thegroggman** · 05-17-2003, 07:09 PM

I'm pretty sure they did leave the Matrix, cuz although you guys are right that they didnt show them leave, they did show their operator (Link). That is when they were abandoning their ship.

**lunatacs** · 05-17-2003, 08:22 PM

I'm pretty sure they did leave the Matrix, cuz although you guys are right that they didnt show them leave, they did show their operator (Link). That is when they were abandoning their ship.

try to look at the bigger picture of what is reality and real.