*official Matrix Chat* Reloaded & Revolution Chat

**dmorgan89** · 05-17-2003, 08:26 PM

woah

headache headache. after watching that movie i really did have a headache. could there be a connection in the feeling that neo talked about after smith tried to turn him in the fight against all the smiths and the feeling when he took out the machines at the end?

**dmorgan89** · 05-17-2003, 08:28 PM

how come neo was hurt after he took out the machines. wonder if whatever he did to them drained his power. does he have built in emp?

**thegroggman** · 05-17-2003, 08:29 PM

Good point dmorgan89. I didnt even think about that. Maybe by stopping the replicaation he gained something from Smith. Then again, the same thing happened to Morpheus...

how come neo was hurt after he took out the machines. wonder if whatever he did to them drained his power. does he have built in emp?

No one can be quite sure, theres alot of theorys. Mine is that maybe he realized then that Zion was also a Matrix, and when he passed out he was actually waking up in the 'real' world.

**thegroggman** · 05-17-2003, 08:35 PM

Ive mentioned before, how it would be interesting (if the double-matrix theory holds true) if it were humans outside controlling everybody and everything in the Matrix. But an even slicker twist would be, what if everyone in the Matrix and Zion were just programs

**lunatacs** · 05-17-2003, 08:48 PM

read my post, buddy.

**dmorgan89** · 05-17-2003, 09:08 PM

ok there is no way and i refuse to believe that there is a matrix inside a matrix and such. of course it's a possiblity, but i dont want to believe that because that would suck. not to cut anyone's theory down or anything. it's just i can't stand to think that. that would disappoint me. and i also think that would disappoint other viewers so i dont think they would do that. but who knows.

p.s. the matrix inside a matrix is kinda like that part in men in black 2 about the aliens in the locker. will said something like "we should let them know the world is bigger than just that locker". tommy lee jones opened a door that was a locker door to another big world. anyways it's hard to explain it but if you've seen the movie you will know what i'm talking about. I thought that was a big no no and it ruined men in black for me.

**dmorgan89** · 05-17-2003, 09:10 PM

Good point dmorgan89. I didnt even think about that. Maybe by stopping the replicaation he gained something from Smith. Then again, the same thing happened to Morpheus...

your right. he did do the same thing to morpheus, but what if it was different when he did it to neo because of the human/machine connection they have. if their powers were switched maybe it was different who knows. i still don't understand why neo was hurt after he stoped the machines? anyone else have a theory about this.

**scruge** · 05-17-2003, 09:43 PM

I think the matrix is a manifestation of the machines evolving to self awareness and battling with that struggle through use of what they know or knew of people.
If you believe the Double Matrix theory then logic dictates the cocoons from which Neo and others were released from, were as much apart of the illusion as any other thing in the Matrix. Think about that for a moment. Why use people to generate power? Why not some other large mammal. Plus you don't have to keep animals pre-occupied with silly illusions. Next point if the connectors on their bodies disappear when they're in the inter-Matrix because they don't see themselves as having them, then why do they and others see themselves and other with them when out? (reason, the matrix is still in control). Third point, if most of these people (including Neo) were raised from birth without having ever looked into a mirror how would they know how to perceive themselves? (again the matrix)

I think the matrix is a collective of interconnected machines evolving at different rates. You see signs of natural selection taking place through the various iterations Neo has taken the 5 previous times.
I think Agent Smith is actually further along the evolutionary track than most others. He appears to be more aware of his circumstances than the others and wants to get out.

What lies outside the Matrix is really irrelevant. It could be a world of pure machines void of all live or it could be a kids computer game and we're watching the struggle taking place within..

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Questions, When Neo at the end appeared to stop the machines, are you sure he did? Maybe the ship that rescued them released an emp just as Neo raised his hand, giving the impression Neo was responsible.

**lunatacs** · 05-17-2003, 10:06 PM

When i think of matrix, i think about the borg.( from star trek)

B)

**thegroggman** · 05-17-2003, 11:08 PM

ok there is no way and i refuse to believe that there is a matrix inside a matrix and such. of course it's a possiblity, but i dont want to believe that because that would suck.

Yeah your right, that would really suck, and in reality I dont want that too be true, its just a theory that Im throwing out there. And besides the idea has been done before.