thanks on the control room explanation. I gather your saying that was an automated attendant? Pretty fancy hardware the attendants have verses what the hover craft are equipped with
How about the meeting with the architect. If you watch very closely it looks like Neo is being transported to another planet or ship as he enters the room. I watched it again frame by frame and it is definitely a pan out from a solar system as he passes through the door.
does any one know the real movie on kazaa i watched the movie already i just wanted to see it again i fell asleep ike in da middle cause i watched it at 12:00 midnight but i dont get the ending!!!
read my first post... this is NOT the place for file requests, etc... there are like, 3-4 different versions listed in the verifieds at the moment, go look there...Originally posted by AznRocky@18 May 2003 - 23:03
does any one know the real movie on kazaa i watched the movie already i just wanted to see it again i fell asleep ike in da middle cause i watched it at 12:00 midnight but i dont get the ending!!!
Lunatics, get the svcd version of the animatrix, its the best imho.
any how, some new comments on my part, btw, thread looks great, keep up the good chat.
1. after watching it again, i did notice that whole space pan out... i wonder that was all about... like he went from point a) earth in the matrix to point B) the architects room, via space or some shit, very interesting.
2. more and more, when neo comes out of the matrix, the "this feels different" is sticking in my head... for some reason, that is key... maybe just from that point on they are in a matrix within a matrix...???... ie, they think they left, but the machines, knowing neos choice, tricked them into thinking they were out? because as i said ealier, we never see them "leave", and that would also explain his control of the machines
wha
well anyways ya know how neo is like in the hospital thingy and that other dude is there what does that mean?
hold on. i want to go over these unexpected abilities of smith and neo.
Neo:
1. Can See into the future (he see's trinity die in his dreams and it accually comes true.
2. Neo can now sense smith. (Neo can't necessarily sense agents. But he can sense smith. That's some kind of connection between the two.
3. He can stop the sentinenals.
Smith:
1. He can now duplicate himself. (Not really sure how he's now doing this. Thinking maybe he got the ability from Neo when he jumped into Smith in the first movie and blew him up.)
2. He can now enter the real world from the Matrix with people he has duplicated himself with.
3. He can switch bodies from Smith to the person he has taken over or duplicated himself with. (I know this because he duplicated the dude with the goatee and now in the real world he is the goatee person. That tells me he can switch between the two now.
Is all of this correct?
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Yup, that about wraps it up oh...also, Neo can not only stop the sentinels, but he can sense them also.
hey all. this is my 1st post in this board. Well, never notice thats so much matrix lover around. Anyway some thoughts on the movie.
1) Can we explain matrix in this form:
Source - Bios
Matrix - OS
Neo & Gangs - Virus
Agents - Anti-Virus
Oracle / French Guy - Important Background programs
Smiths - Corrupted / Infected program
2) Who are those protectors (the twins - french guy, gangfu guy - oracle)? Their abilities are almost on par with neo. If they are programs, why agents are not coded in such ways (in first part of movie, neo did mentioned the upgraded version of agents. IMHO hardly any improvement compared to these protectors)? Is it because of balancing (cause unbalance or disturbance when too-powerful agents in work or fighting neo)? Or the added power came at a cost of independent thoughts (eg, smiths)?
3) I'd a interest in Lost Civilisation stuff, and the concept of Zions being destroyed and rebuilded come too close to certain myths, like what mentioned in Maya history, our current era is the fifth civilisation, there are previous 4 b4 us, all being destroyed due to many reasons, but nevertheless, all are at its civilisation peak.
4) The architect mentioned neo is a flaw in programming, and dispite his best effort, could not remedy the fault (cant remember his exact speech). Then he go on to explain theres previous 5 The One (some major bug in the matrix, same problem occur 6 times dispite its 6th upgrade, sort of remind me Microsoft Window). He add on to say about its pre-determine (I'm no sure about this part) that The One will come to the Source to make a Choice, pre-determine as in the triggering event must occur - the immediate danger of Zions being exterminated (happens 5 times b4). The One who had the code in him/her will decide to shut down the matrix and choose to rebuild Zions with xx men & xx women (forget the numbers) OR chose to let human race extinct by ??? (forget the method he said, is it by not doing anything?). OK, problems I cant figure out:
a. What code (in The One) is he referring to? I'm thinking is it a code to cause matrix to reboot (eg Ctrl + Alt + Del)? Is this the ultimate weapon The One posses?
b. He mentioned Zions had been destroyed 5 times, and they are becoming very good at it. So, why not destroyed it during its rebuild period, why let it develop into a city that pose as a threat to matrix? Are there a secret pact made by The One and the source (let the city reach a population size of 42 b4 u take any action. Note I'm a fan of Civilisation series)? Or Zions is a key triggering event to bring all The One to the source?
c. Whats with the xx men & xx women Neo can choose to rebuild Zions. Who decide the numbers? Neo? Apparently not. Architect? Yes to a certain sense as he bring out the number. Whats with these numbers (I'm also into NASA conspiracy about MARs, secret numbers like 19.5 or 33.3 pose significant to certain people or organisation)? So how is these people being chosen? From the survivers of Zions (say matrix purposely spare these people, who may be selected by neo, during their attack on Zions) OR from the huge pool of unplugged human in matrix? Btw, does all these sound like project Ark?
d. Lets assume the above holds a certain truth, ie The One is pre-determiine to meet with source. Now, a very important role, the key maker must exist. Why agents deem its top priority to 'delete' him during the car/motorcycle chase scene? Why the matrix issue such order? To thicken the plot, or as another way to hasten the pace of the meeting?
Theres so much to talk about matrix, but I really like to hear others opinions b4 raising other questions.
great post, i look forward to replying and chatting on it tommorrow, when im not falling asleep!
ill get to it thought, night for now.
The more that i thought about it the more it would seem that the smiths and Neo share something that unite the 2. If you noticed that the other smith was the only 1 to survive that attck would tell you that he had the same power that neo has outside the matrix, that he had to use it to save himelf and also went into a coma . I doubt that the matrix woulda spared him seeing that he is screwing up the matrix a bit by coping himself. Who knows maybe the smith was also one point in time" the one" or a version of it. The agents are what "the one" was. As in the first movie she says, wow how did you do that you move jus like they do.
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Hey welcome to the board ZLOsiris. Good point about Smith possibly being a 'One'. Thats a very fresh idea. We'll find out come Nov. oh and tyk ...wow man...did you enter this forum with a bang. Damn...I want to comment on your post...but i dont know where to begin...Ill have to think about it
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