*official Matrix Chat* Reloaded & Revolution Chat

**scruge** · 05-22-2003, 12:17 PM

Think of the matrix as an onion with many layers. You first start out in the center. If you're not able to cope with the virtual world that exist in that layer. The matirx will then have you moved to a different virtual world. But you are not moved phyically only mentally. The matrix will make it appear you escaped the layer you were in, before assigning you to the new layer.

When they speak of Zion being distroyed with each cycle. I believe it means the people of zion are returned to the interlayer of the matrix after their minds have been reset. The spoiler says the machines figure a way to extract the consciousness of the people, which eliminates the need to have a body in a pod.

**Kazaa Lite freak** · 05-22-2003, 12:41 PM

The Matrix Reloaded SVCD Centropy version,

i just downloaded ye 2.3gb one, i extracted the .bins, but it wont play in windows media player or realplayer it says encounted an error, please please help im begging you guys, and gals, i must see this movie

**scruge** · 05-22-2003, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Kazaa Lite freak@22 May 2003 - 13:41
The Matrix Reloaded SVCD Centropy version,

i just downloaded ye 2.3gb one, i extracted the .bins, but it wont play in windows media player or realplayer it says encounted an error, please please help im begging you guys, and gals, i must see this movie

you should post in the help section or other... my understanding is the 2.3gb has to be broken down into 3 vcds before playing.... or you can mount it on hdd.

I've been looking for it myself. did you get it off kazaa?

**Kazaa Lite freak** · 05-22-2003, 01:38 PM

no Bit Torrent,

**Hazzy Hazz** · 05-22-2003, 05:06 PM

All this made me realise they married philosophy with science fiction........rather novel
I guess these bob and andy r futurists.......................

**Schmiggy_JK23** · 05-22-2003, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Kazaa Lite freak@22 May 2003 - 07:41
The Matrix Reloaded SVCD Centropy version,

i just downloaded ye 2.3gb one, i extracted the .bins, but it wont play in windows media player or realplayer it says encounted an error, please please help im begging you guys, and gals, i must see this movie

Kazaa lite, this is not the thread for such requests... there are numerous other matrix reloaded threads, for file purposes, and questions on copies, take your questions there...

**Freek1e** · 05-22-2003, 08:13 PM

possible answer

a)

neo=neophyte= trainee
morpheus= mentor=trainer
oracle=stocastic capability prediction program= training prog with greater range of variables than other programs due to known outcomes(subroutines)
trinity= lover= control program for Neo, allowing predictable control due to linked emotional content

I think it possible that scmiggy's 'real world' is 'matrix' inside of 'matrix' has good possibilities

the machines test found anomalies 'such as Neo' to see how far they have progressed, by using control programs and formulas as above, then they alter the 'matrix' to compensate for the varied anomaly, thus updating their system and keeping integrity intact

B)

Neo = THE ONE
Matrix = Matrix
Real World = Real world
Zion = Last hope and home of last humans
Revelations = KICK ASS FINALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, BANE is the name of the guy on the table at the end, he is the one infected by smith, cut his hand and passed infection to Neo when they shook hands before taking off to see the Oracle, reason he didn't stab hi is due to kid shouting Neo and running to pass him the spoon created by the kid in the first movie "there is no spoon"

Movagnoin (is that is how it is spelt) is the mirror or the oracle (as I see it) has access to the same info, but wants to use it for his own ends and keep his part of the program running his way, Agent Smith is running away from deletion and has become a virus, hence the copying into other persons, he may be looking for a way to become an agent again, possibly by infecting agents

I also agree with schmiggy that I think that the Zion they were released to was just another part of the Matrix, a new part added by the architect to stop the destruction of the core, hence the reason that Neo felt the machines, I think it was to make Neo feel that he had lost Zion, possibly to stop him being the one, i.e if you know you have lost, then you would have nothing to believe in, so you cannot be the one, you cannot stop bullets etc..., this would leave him open to attack and possibility of being killed in the Matrix by agents..

Killed by loss of confidence, you know you are not the one because you failed, therefore you cannot be stronger, faster etc.. than the agents, bullets, etc...

just my thoughts

**Cl1mh4224rd** · 05-22-2003, 08:18 PM

Heh. I can't help but think, in Revolutions, we'll find out the whole thing was just a dream...

[ Rural America. Dawn. The camera zooms in on an average residental home. The occupants: brothers Andy and Larry Wachowski. The scene changes to show Andy stretching as he wakes up from a restful night's sleep. He climbs out of bed and walks downstairs to find his brother, Larry, sitting at the kitchen table eating breakfast. ]

Andy: "Dude. I just had the coolest dream."
Larry: "Dude! So did I!"
Both: "Duuuude..."

I just pray I'm wrong.

**olibomb** · 05-23-2003, 09:58 AM

So do i. I've heard rumours that Neo dies awhile into Revolutions. But if this happens the film would stink

**Infested Cats** · 05-23-2003, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by olibomb@23 May 2003 - 04:58
So do i. I've heard rumours that Neo dies awhile into Revolutions. But if this happens the film would stink

I think there are a lot of religious connotations throughout the film.

Neo is the savior, representing jesus christ, and he will no doubt sacrifise himself in order to save the people of Xion. Also, Neo wears what a preist wears underneath of his religious clothes (I don't know the exact names), when he's in the Matrix.

Archatect is god, Agent Smith is Judas... blah blah blah there's lots more.