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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc View Post
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    That's just silly.
    That Bush was chosen as the villain of 2006 or that some people actually believe in Satan?


    Hardly surprising though. Saddam spent all of 2006 in jail and we are not even sure if OBL is still alive. Rumsfeld must be a tad disappointed he didn't make a showing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc View Post

    That Bush was chosen as the villain of 2006 or that some people actually believe in Satan?


    Hardly surprising though. Saddam spent all of 2006 in jail and we are not even sure if OBL is still alive. Rumsfeld must be a tad disappointed he didn't make a showing though.
    Rumsfeld got 2%, which even though a low number, at least makes him more villainous than Satan, so he doesn't feel totally dejected

    Here's a couple of runners up congratulating each other on the effort



    The one with the mustache has decided not to enter next years competition.

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    worst ever... hmm. that's a tough one. if not worst ever, GWB should at least rate alongside the worst. there's plenty others that share one fault or another with him. but it's a relatively short list of u.s. presidents who've managed to be so wrong in every aspect. not only visibly corrupt, not only ineffective, not only bumbling, not only ignorant, not only chronically unprepared for emergencies, not only self-righteous & stubborn to the point of complete foolishness... but ALL of those things. that's a very tall order to fill.

    i mean, there are some redeeming values one could mention about a lot of the controversial presidents. lincoln preserved the union, jimmy carter was altruistic and as straight an arrow as you're likely to find among the 43 we've had so far, LBJ did some alright work on the domestic side, nixon eventually pulled out of vietnam & got onto speaking terms with the people's republic, etc etc. one needs to look back at least several decades and even to the 19th century, to find presidents who are just so wrong, wrong, stupendously bad at leading/speaking/snacking, and all-around wrong.
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    As an American Soldier I am proud to have President Bush as my Commander in Chief.
    People like you aren't the solution to the problem ... you ARE the problem, and you talk a load of bollocks.
    I noticed your avatar says "Manchester United" so I am guessing that you are not an American anyway. President Bush is not your problem if this is the case. I suppose that you dislike Tony Blair as well since he is allies with President Bush. I may be part of the problem as you see it, but at least I have put myself in a position to make positive change instead of just criticizing the actions of the leaders. I was not happy with some of the choices that Bill Clinton made, but I still did my duty to the best of my ability and supported him as well, because if you don't support your leaders you send a message to the world and open yourself up to attackers. The decision to go into Iraq was made by President Bush and the members of Congress (Democrats and Republicans) who had the same intelligence that President Bush had, so I wish people would quit blaming Bush solely for this.
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    Doing you duty? Wasn't that the excuse given by the guards at Abu Ghraib?

    The soldiers I have respect for are those who, when they see their country and their president are wrong, refuse to take part. It's the sheep of this world that allow arseholes like Bush and his cohorts, including Blair, to ride roughshod over people's human rights in the name of US imperialism.

    Oh, and by the way, what Bush does to your rights and freedoms is your problem, as soon as he steps outside the borders of the US he's everyone's problem. He's made the whole world unsafe, and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_kermit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ava Estelle View Post

    People like you aren't the solution to the problem ... you ARE the problem, and you talk a load of bollocks.
    I noticed your avatar says "Manchester United" so I am guessing that you are not an American anyway. President Bush is not your problem if this is the case. I suppose that you dislike Tony Blair as well since he is allies with President Bush. I may be part of the problem as you see it, but at least I have put myself in a position to make positive change instead of just criticizing the actions of the leaders. I was not happy with some of the choices that Bill Clinton made, but I still did my duty to the best of my ability and supported him as well, because if you don't support your leaders you send a message to the world and open yourself up to attackers. The decision to go into Iraq was made by President Bush and the members of Congress (Democrats and Republicans) who had the same intelligence that President Bush had, so I wish people would quit blaming Bush solely for this.
    Okay now you sound like a brainless automaton. You do not blindly support your leaders. Don't get me wrong. I understand you must do your duty as a soldier but your thought process independent of that is another story.

    Bush is the leader of our country so he gets blame just as Clinton would have.

    I thought Clinton was shit for doing what it seemed was attacking Iraq when he was in the hot seat.

    I will not blindly support a leader in an action that I think is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ava Estelle View Post
    Doing you duty? Wasn't that the excuse given by the guards at Abu Ghraib?

    The soldiers I have respect for are those who, when they see their country and their president are wrong, refuse to take part. It's the sheep of this world that allow arseholes like Bush and his cohorts, including Blair, to ride roughshod over people's human rights in the name of US imperialism.

    Oh, and by the way, what Bush does to your rights and freedoms is your problem, as soon as he steps outside the borders of the US he's everyone's problem. He's made the whole world unsafe, and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the process.
    Soldiers are not that high up on the food chain to simply say know. The Iraq action is not erroneous. It's not like Bush ordered soldiers to rape and kill a bunch of women.

    Even with my views now, if I was a soldier in Iraq, I'd be following orders unless they were erroneously wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    if I was a soldier in Iraq, I'd be following orders unless they were erroneously wrong.
    Parse this, please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ava Estelle View Post
    Doing you duty? Wasn't that the excuse given by the guards at Abu Ghraib?

    The soldiers I have respect for are those who, when they see their country and their president are wrong, refuse to take part. It's the sheep of this world that allow arseholes like Bush and his cohorts, including Blair, to ride roughshod over people's human rights in the name of US imperialism.

    Oh, and by the way, what Bush does to your rights and freedoms is your problem, as soon as he steps outside the borders of the US he's everyone's problem. He's made the whole world unsafe, and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the process.
    Based on your response I can plainly see that you have never served anything greater than yourself. The so called soldiers that refuse to take part if they feel the president is wrong are not soldiers. As long as the order is not breaking the law or violating the UCMJ then as a Soldier you are obligated to follow it, regardless of what you personally think. If President Bush is such a problem to you, then what are you doing about it, rather than just complaining on this forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_kermit View Post
    As long as the order is not breaking the law or violating the UCMJ then as a Soldier you are obligated to follow it, regardless of what you personally think.
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