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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc View Post
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    It occurs to me that nothing in this paragraph specifically mentions a manual transmission so I can only assume that when driving an automatic you guys put it in PARK and engage the handbrake at traffic stops as well.
    Right?

    Yeah, thought not.
    Hardly anyone does (bad habits once they pass their test), however the correct thing to do...
    Do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
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    Hardly anyone does (bad habits once they pass their test), however the correct thing to do...
    Do you?
    If it looks like I will be stopped for more than a fleeting second I usually do. (use neutral) Not every "stop" requires it.

    Originally Posted by vidcc
    of course after you pass your test you can operate with all the bad habits you desire

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    I meant do you "secure the car when stationary", i.e., apply the parking brake at stop signs/lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    I meant do you "secure the car when stationary", i.e., apply the parking brake at stop signs/lights.
    Each situation is different. I will in a queue or if the lights have changed to red, but if I come to a stop sign where I can see the junction is "clear" or lights that have changed to green and it looks like I will be moving away almost immediately then I wouldn't.
    ( A green light doesn't mean go, it means proceed if your path is clear to do so)
    Last edited by vidcc; 12-15-2006 at 03:50 PM.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Interesting.
    In my entire life I have never seen anyone- irregardless of transmission type- apply the parking brake at a traffic stop.
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    Personally:

    Stop on flat: foot on brake and clutch while stopped and then just balance accelerator/clutch and move off

    Stop on medium incline for short time: either same as above, or balance clutch and accelerator for duration

    Stop on medium incline for longer time: either foot on brake or use hand brake

    steep hill: hand brake most of the time, unless v short in which case i might balance it.


    I prefer using the brakes to balancing it, not because its hard to balance, i just think its better for the clutch & the environment, (my car idles faster than the speeds clocker balances at!)

    never heard of heel & toe being used in a hill start, what benefit do you gain in comparison to quickly changing to balancing or using the handbrake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Interesting.
    In my entire life I have never seen anyone- irregardless of transmission type- apply the parking brake at a traffic stop.
    I can believe that. Not because it's the correct thing to do but because once people pass their test they pick up bad habits. It depends on which state or which examiner one gets but in the US the road test is very lax. I would imagine that most people would fail their road test ( where the test is a proper test) if they drove in their normal way with their "habits".
    crossing hands when making a turn, sometimes only use the one hand. not keeping hands at "10 to 2". sitting in traffic in gear instead of neutral until ready to move. riding the clutch. Talking on phones, smoking, eating and drinking while driving. sitting in the wrong lane, bad signaling, driving too close, speeding ......the list goes on.

    In the us driving is almost considered a competitive sport. Police pursuits are aggressive and often using physical contact to ram the driver being chased off the road. This is very different to how it's done in other countries where the police keep a safe distance and control the situation. In such places the risk to others is reduced and casualties are fewer with no loss of capture success.
    I won't say that once they have passed their test in the UK those drivers are better drivers than those in the US, but I will say that the standard required to pass the test in the UK is a lot higher than the standard in the US

    I think the worst place for driving (that I've experienced) is India where the only rule seems to be the biggest vehicle has right of way, even if on the wrong side of the road.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc View Post
    ...not keeping hands at "10 to 2"...

    Guilty.

    I prefer quarter-after nine (9 and 3 for you Brits, ex-pats as well).

    And now, for my own outrageous abuse of the editting controls...


    ...in the UK drivers are better drivers than those in the US...the standard required to pass the test in the UK is a lot higher than the standard in the US ...
    Sounds like a lovely place, the U.K.; certainly better in every way than the U.S.

    I'd go see for myself, but I'm sure they wouldn't let me in, crude bugger that I am.
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    I'd go see for myself, but I'm sure they wouldn't let me in, crude bugger that I am.
    Or are you just afraid you won't want to leave, thus crushing all your prejudices against Britain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Interesting.
    In my entire life I have never seen anyone- irregardless of transmission type- apply the parking brake at a traffic stop.
    I thought that automatic cars did not have a parking brake as such. When I stopped at traffic lights I just put the gear lever to 'Park'. I think. My memory is not what it used to be. So they tell me.
    Last edited by bigboab; 12-16-2006 at 02:05 PM.
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