Palestine Or Israel?

[Rat Faced]

What is this "written at the request of the PLO' all about?

Didnt you read the preface?

I believe you'll see it on page 5, after the list of consultants


I agree with the Hamas comment though....they aint gonna like the "Religious Fredom" bit in particular.

[ShockAndAwe^i^]

I've read that constitution, and they will never stick to it!!!!!!!!
If they did it would be a miracle.

[j2k4]

Just a few notes here, as the board's being down has rendered my thoughts "un-syncable":

The first of two Mid-east summits held by President Bush, at Sharm el-Sheik, was a gathering of leaders of the Arab states; Bush's "Roadmap" proposal met with little reaction that could be characterized as positive-they would not even endorse Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.

They did state an opposition to terrorism, but one would have to take this with a grain of salt given their proclivity for devoting much intellectual and religious reasoning to concurrently convince their native populations that killing Jews in "Palestine" should be considered resistance, not terrorism.

Neither would they endorse Mahmoud Abbas over Arafat as the head of the Palestinian state, thus depriving Abbas of the vote of confidence he needs to effectively press ahead with any coherent peace effort.

From all this it can rather safely be assumed the Arab states would prefer that the Palestinians none of them want in their own countries be offered an existence on par with, and, indeed, instead of, Israel.

Apparently, while nobody wants the Palestinians in their country, the Palestinians' presence is still much preferred over that of Israel.

[theprisoner]

Jews all the way[COLOR=red]

[clocker]

Originally posted by theprisoner@28 June 2003 - 11:45
Jews all the way[COLOR=red]

Quit waffling!

[tralalala]

im a jewish israeli and ill tell you what i think:
fat assed sharon should start wiv taking down those goddamn settlements which r ruining everything.
then, fat assed arafat and abu mazen should get those goddamn suiciders to hell and kill them.
and ONLY then will the peace process get going.
and ill tell you what?
come and visit israel, its a lovely place, no fear, do not fear of anything.
your chances of being killed by a sniper in the U.S.A are like 25 times higher than getting killed in israel...

Come visit, its great.
loadsa places to visit: dead sea, the golan hights, sea of galilee, jerusalem, eilat (most southern city in israel and probably most visited), my home town of Karmiel which hosts every year one of the biggest dance festivals in israel (3 nights and days) and is a town of 50,000.

a lot to do.
come visit,
tralalala

[j2k4]

Originally posted by tralalala@3 July 2003 - 08:17
im a jewish israeli and ill tell you what i think:
fat assed sharon should start wiv taking down those goddamn settlements which r ruining everything.
then, fat assed arafat and abu mazen should get those goddamn suiciders to hell and kill them.
and ONLY then will the peace process get going.
and ill tell you what?
come and visit israel, its a lovely place, no fear, do not fear of anything.
your chances of being killed by a sniper in the U.S.A are like 25 times higher than getting killed in israel...

Come visit, its great.
loadsa places to visit: dead sea, the golan hights, sea of galilee, jerusalem, eilat (most southern city in israel and probably most visited), my home town of Karmiel which hosts every year one of the biggest dance festivals in israel (3 nights and days) and is a town of 50,000.

a lot to do.
come visit,
tralalala

I think I like your attitude, Tralalala.

Will you consent to be our man on the scene?

[tralalala]

hey, im your man.
i live here in israel, which i think is one of the most amazing and stunning countries on the globe to date.

you may ask me anything, but anything about the situation here and what is going on, and how everyone here feels aobut it.

hope i can be of any assistance,
tralalala

[j2k4]

Originally posted by tralalala@3 July 2003 - 08:59
hey, im your man.
i live here in israel, which i think is one of the most amazing and stunning countries on the globe to date.

you may ask me anything, but anything about the situation here and what is going on, and how everyone here feels aobut it.

hope i can be of any assistance,
tralalala

Superb.

I hope to avail myself of your views soon.

Oh-why not now?

Do you think Hamas, Al Aqsa, et.al. will ultimately abide by a peace agreement, long-term?

Do you think Arafat's time has passed?

Is he capable of relevance in a time of peace?

How do you feel about the historical anti-Zionist threat of annihilation?

Also, if you could satisfy my curiousity:

What does the average Israeli think of Benjamin Netanyahou?


BTW-the Lakers suck.

[tralalala]

hamas, al aqsa, islamic jihad and the fatah will probably not agree for a long term peace treaty if they "wont get more land".
if there will be peace (god please bless us, we want peace&#33, arafat will no longer be relevant for ANYTHING. only abu mazen who seems to be OK except the fact that he is one of those guys that do not agree that there was a holocaust...
anti-zionism? stuff it.
we, the jews, are the first religion, the religion the other 2 major religions (christianity and islam) came from, and we have been around for some 5000 years and we have survived. so if that is not enough, ill give you some more.

so is this enough for now?
lol
if you want any more info. im here for you nearly every day.

hope i helped,
tralalala

edit::
the AVARAGE israeli thinks netanyahu is not a disaster but could be better.
in my houshold, we think he is a creep.
he is annoying, lies, his financial suggestions are pathetically pathetic ( )
and all or most left wingers (like me) just do not trust or like him.
trust me (sorry for the expression), he is a peice of sh!t who hasnt a clue about what hes talking aobut.