Palestine Or Israel?

[thewizeard]

Then the killings will go on. Tralala, that's why I believe that someone has to make the first move, and put an end to this violence, by not retaliating. Sooner or later you both will have to find a way to live side by side. Why not sooner?

[brynasmith]

are you trying to say that if one side stops the other side will stop sometime too? I'm sorry to say but thats not whats going to happen the other side will just kill us.
There really is no good answer.

[denis123]

Yes! Sooner rather than later, that's the only sane answer! Stop all the killings.

[denis123]

Originally posted by tralalala@21 July 2003 - 19:16
as i said a few posts ago, you cannot make anyone change their mind...

tralalala

Lets us hope that the truth will help.

[brynasmith]

the fact is that not all plastenians and Israelie's can live together so there will always be wat between them there is no hope for peace because neither side WANTS peace!

[echidna]

Originally posted by tralalala+22 July 2003 - 04:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (tralalala &#064; 22 July 2003 - 04:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>p.s: i am israeli, i have the experience to tell you what i typed above, so with all due respect, i think i deserve a little more respect ot my words...[/b]

with all due respect, could you explain your allegiances, they seem a bit confusing

1. in your sig you advertise a basketball team from california USA
2. in your sig you claim to be proud to be british
3. in this quoted post you claim to be israeli

if you feel that your israeli roots aren&#39;t getting you enough respect maybe it&#39;s because your board image doesn&#39;t reflect any israeli influence
[i think that spell checking might help get your words more of the respect you feel they deserve]

@brynasmith :: being scared of terrorism sounds a bit like a relaxed version of a military curfew.
helicopter rocket attacks, armoured bulldozers, sniper towers, checkpoints and attacks upon ambulances seem a bit more extreme in terms of threat levels when compared to rock throwing and the occasional kamikaze sniper or human-bomb
i don&#39;t envy the plight of israelis but i cannot support their actions either, sharon is a war-criminal as well as being prime minister & the IDF is a state terrorist organisation
[i do support the israeli imprisoned conscientious objectors]

israel is specifically a jewish state ie. religiously biased state, and i can&#39;t support any such exclusionist regime, to be so biased is just as evil as german national socialism or south african apartheid
excluding people in a nation is wrong and should be deplored

the fact that israel would fold without US assistance is true, but nowadays the crunch that the IDF would cause upon folding is something which the world cannot afford [nuke blackmail giving the USA a taste of their own medicine]

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by writing this you just demonstrated the fascist bigotry which underlies the hypocrisy of the USA in so many situations, S&A
do you think you&#39;d be happy if a superior military power conquered north america and said that the USA could have it&#39;s own state in arkansas and new mexico? i doubt it
yet this is what you seem to feel palestinians should have been happy with&#33;

in fact i doubt if you could even empathise with most of the souls on earth, you surely miss the point of pink floyd&#39;s message

all in all, you are just another brick in the wall
a wall which traps, restricts and obscures the truth
a wall that one day will crumble (i pray)

you also don&#39;t understand salmon rushdie&#39;s writing either [BTW salmon will tell you that he writes fiction (which means he made it up, FYI)]
you have issue with those who criticise the USA while you expunge pure bile filled intolerance like this :: why should anyone respect your opinion in this light?

[TIBZ]

ok im 25% plo and 75% lebanese my family used to live in palistine and we got kicked out all of our money was takin and cows and horses and shit this was like 50-70 years ago and now my family lives in lebanon i live in detroit wit my parents and sibbling wat im tryin to say is that the palestinians were there first and no matter wat land cannot be taken away unless sold i think that jerusalem shud just be its own country where no1 can live and it shud just be a place for worship and government and palestine of israel or watever u wanna call it shud be split equaly.....o and im surprised non of u guys c wats goin on there jews r treatin my people worse than hitler was treatin them and still arabs r the terrorists try downloadin occupation 101 its a documentery i dont it came out but watch the preview and ull no wat i mean thx 4 listenin

www.ocupation101.com

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[tralalala]

i was born in london, britain and came to israel at the age of 5 months.
second: you know, the lakers dont have supporters only inside the USA... some supporters are on the other side of the globe man...

tralalala

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by brynasmith@22 July 2003 - 07:25
there is no hope for peace because neither side WANTS peace&#33;

I sincerely hope that this is not true and to be honest, I don&#39;t believe you.

In any case, to reach peace, many offers will have to be made by both sides.

In China and other eastern countries, there used to be a tradition between two countries who were at war, of marriage between the children of the rulers of the two countries.

Maybe an idea for Palestine and Israel?

[echidna]

Originally posted by tralalala@22 July 2003 - 21:05
i was born in london, britain and came to israel at the age of 5 months.
second: you know, the lakers dont have supporters only inside the USA... some supporters are on the other side of the globe man...

tralalala

that&#39;s hep G
i just wanted to point out that there&#39;s a certain amount of ambiguity to your ID in this brave new world of pixels
shalom