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Thread: IP Harvesting: Filesharers Guilty Until Proven Innocent

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    Research on the behavior of fake RIAA and MPAA trackers shows that these organizations have no proof that you actually tried to share infringing content. Even worse, it is extremely easy for someone to make it look like you shared an infringing file, even if you’ve never used a filesharing application.

    Inspired by our previous posts on fake BitTorrent trackers, Ben Maurer decided to take a good look at the behavior of these trackers. For this research he used a BitTorrent client, and started to connect to fake torrents. The torrents were hosted by BayTSP, a company that collects IP addresses for several anti-piracy organizations.

    The findings are quite shocking, but at the same time good news for filesharers who receive DMCA notices from their ISP. Ben found what some of us already expected. BayTSP only records who connects to the tracker, and has no proof that the alleged pirates actually tried to download infringing content. BayTSP merely collects IP addresses and forwards them to anti-piracy organizations. The anti-piracy then send a letter to your ISP, accusing you of sharing copyrighted material.

    The really scary thing about this is that it is extremely easy for other people to make you receive a DMCA notice from your ISP, and possibly get disconnected if that happens more than once. As Ben points out, one way to make someone connect to a fake tracker (don’t try this at home) is by letting them click on a link like this:

    http://tracker.com:12345/announce?info_hash=579CC43E4D6.

    Their IP will then be recorded by the fake tracker, and they will probably receive an infringement notice soon after that. Even if they’ve never heard of BitTorrent at all! Another way to set someone up is by using “peer exchange“. All you have to do is enter someone else’s address, and the fake tracker will record it.

    All this is actually good news for people who receive these DMCA notices. As Ben points out in his post: “If your ISP forwards a DMCA notice from these guys, point them here. This research suggests that they have no evidence of wrong-doing. If ISPs learn that the folks sending them DMCA notices are not being completely honest, they may be willing to reconsider their position about how they respond to the notices.”

    Source: TorrentFreak
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    Good info! I hate the way so many unprofessional ISP's roll over at unsubstantiated allegations of illegal activity from a user

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    Interesting read

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    very interesting read indeed!

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    Good message for those torrent users relying of IP blockers like PG or protowall to try and keep the RIAA/MPAA at bay.

    Even if, and that's an improbable if, you have every IP used to collect information blocked it doesn't matter. All 'they' have to do is be able to connect to the tracker, not you, and you can get a letter in the mail.
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    Interesting - but I think this is a bit "flimsy".

    Where would the DMCA Peeps take this ?

    Let's assume Joe User's IP was logged on a tracker (rightly or wrongly).
    The process kicks in and the letter is sent to the ISP then to the user as expected.
    Now if Joe User gets back to the ISP and says "Sorry Officer - not me" where does that leave the ISP ?
    DMCA process is backed up by legal means so aren't they forced to comply ?
    In other words, the argument is between the DMCA peeps and the user - ISP is just a "go-between". They'll discharge their legal responsibility by sending the letter to the user and that's the end of it from their perspective.
    What I potentially see happening is obvious - DMCA peeps (if forced to) then contact ISPs direct and ask for log info on user/IP/date time etc.. which they are legally entitled to ask for and the ISP is legally obliged to give.
    If there's a "tie-up" between ISP/IP logged activity and tracker info the user is nailed !
    Basically the DMCA based-process is just wrong. What they need to do ( and probably will - longer term) is contact the ISP BEFORE the end-user is sent the letter and confirm what they suspect. Once that proces is setup the rest is history.

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    Nice reading,thnx!!

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    Hmm *pastes link into email and sends it to friend* Click this link to download Big Jugs 8!!!

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