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    Prince Harry doesn't want special treatment.


    Army commanders are grappling with an unprecedented security headache as Prince Harry prepares to deploy to Iraq.

    The third in line to the throne appears to have won the battle to join his men on operations in a war zone after months of high-level discussions during which he threatened to quit if he was left behind for his own safety.

    Insiders say, however, that officials are still grappling with practical issues - including whether the Metropolitan Police personal protection officers who guard Harry around the clock in the UK should continue doing so in Iraq.

    Time to resolve such issues is short. The prince's unit, 'A' Squadron of the Blues and Royals regiment, was warned unofficially last week to expect a six-month tour of duty in southern Iraq starting in April.

    It will be the first time a member of the Royal Family has served on military operations since Prince Andrew flew helicopters in the Falklands War 25 years ago - and will force his senior commanders to confront some difficult choices over security.

    Southern Iraq remains extremely dangerous for UK forces, with six soldiers killed since Christmas, four of them by roadside bombs.

    Harming or capturing the third in line to the throne would be a massive coup for insurgents or terrorists and in the grim humour of the Army the 22-year-old prince is already being referred to as a 'bullet magnet'.

    Senior officers will have to weigh up the options, including keeping Harry out of harm's way with a relatively safe job inside a headquarters.

    Alternatively, he could be allowed to lead a 12-strong armoured reconnaissance patrol - the role for which he has spent months training - while being restricted to remote desert areas where he would be difficult to track down or recognise.

    Hundreds of British soldiers are operating in outlying areas of the volatile Maysan Province, trying to stop the flow of weapons and drugs across the nearby Iranian border.

    Although the area is dangerous, it is deemed safer than towns and cities, and Harry could remain relatively anonymous.

    On the issue of bodyguards, one royal source said it was a 'distinct possibility' that police representatives would accompany him to 'oversee' his security, but acknowledged practical problems.

    The officers are not trained to operate in a war zone, there would be no space for them in the Scimitar armoured vehicles used by Harry's unit, and their expertise would offer little protection against roadside bombs.

    An alternative is to assign a team of Royal Military Police bodyguards, who specialise in guarding senior commanders and VIPs on operations.

    One Army source said: 'Harry's always wanted to be treated as an ordinary soldier and I think people respect him for that. He's not an ordinary soldier, of course, but it looks like he's got his way over Iraq.

    'Frankly I don't envy his commanders. Losing any soldier under your command is awful. Lose the third in line to the throne and you'd unfortunately go down in history as well.'

    Defence Secretary Des Browne will make an official announcement on the April rotation of units in the next two weeks.
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    So what if he is third in line, he wants to serve his country and his unit. He wants no special treatment. If the powers that be think combat too risky for the royal family why allow them to serve at all?

    Let him serve, if he pays the ultimate price at least he made the choice himself and it's to his credit. Let him earn the respect of those he is serving alongside. It would be offensive to his dignity as a man to send "guards" to protect him.
    I wish him well, along with all the other servicemen and women in harms way.

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    Isn't the royal family kinda like celebrity bullshit now anyway?

    Let him go. Fuck the lineage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Isn't the royal family kinda like celebrity bullshit now anyway?
    You mean like peanut brain Reagan and the Bush monkey?

    They should make a film about those two and call it Bedtime For Bonzo, oh, just a minute ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ava Estelle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Isn't the royal family kinda like celebrity bullshit now anyway?
    You mean like peanut brain Reagan and the Bush monkey?

    They should make a film about those two and call it Bedtime For Bonzo, oh, just a minute ...
    Wtf does that have to do with royalty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc View Post
    So what if he is third in line, he wants to serve his country and his unit. He wants no special treatment. If the powers that be think combat too risky for the royal family why allow them to serve at all?
    Hear hear.

    It seems to really come as a shock to some people that if you join the armed forces, there's a good chance that at some point you will be asked to shoot at people, and get shot at in return.

    This condition is not exclusive to the Royal Family.

    The idea of sending policemen out there to protect him is ludicrous

    Is he or is he not a trained killing machine now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Wtf does that have to do with royalty?
    It has to do with the head of state, Bozo, yours isn't exactly a shining example, is it? People who live in glass houses, and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ava Estelle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman™ View Post
    Wtf does that have to do with royalty?
    It has to do with the head of state, Bozo, yours isn't exactly a shining example, is it? People who live in glass houses, and all that.
    Wow you are an idiot.

    We have elected officials so again, wtf does Reagan and Bush have to do with royalty?

    Wtf do glass houses have to do with whateverthefuck?

    Did the Prince make the decision to send brat troops into Iraq?

    Why the fuck does the head of state have to be a shining example? He is still the head of state and not the celebritybullshithistoricalfigurehead of state.

    Please help educate me on head of the monarchy and his/her relation to the parliamentary decision making process. I was unaware of his/her veto power as head of state...or maybe he/she simply has a vote in parliament but I really didn't know of such power.

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    queenie has veto power on all new laws i think, but never uses it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilw View Post
    queenie has veto power on all new laws i think, but never uses it
    She still has a lot of powers. She can confer peerages etc(without bribes)

    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/openu...067480,00.html

    There is a list of them in this link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboab View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ilw View Post
    queenie has veto power on all new laws i think, but never uses it
    She still has a lot of powers. She can confer peerages etc(without bribes)

    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/openu...067480,00.html

    There is a list of them in this link.
    That sounds like bullshit. It seems parliament could tell the Queen to piss off and she could do squat about it. Thanks for the link, however.

    Also that would be kinda weird in this day and age that a person's lineage could allow them to make life or death decisions.

    It would seem better to have millions of idiots vote that person in so there'd be someone to blame.

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