Will the US or Israel attack Iran?

[tralalala]

Hey Ava.. would've answered earlier but internet screwed up for some reason.


You're right you said Non-Jewish lives... but that's not true. Israel are the ones trying to target militants and not civilians.. When was the last time you saw a Palestinian militant NOT hide behind a civilian and actually target a soldier....?

This picture roughly sums that one up:

Ignorant relatives? They were worried sick.. And tried to get as much info. as they could.. But for instance they said hardly any news program shows anything about Iran nowadays...


Every war after 1949 was a result of the Arabs losing in the previous one.. that's what I meant.

And Israel hasn't demolished houses in a while now since there's no reason to it. They demolished houses of suicide bombers and their family.. Roughly an eye for an eye thing.. They ruined families in Israel, so we screw theirs up.. In a way it's not on.. We should act better, but when so many do it, it's hard to keep quiet.

[Ava Estelle]

You're right you said Non-Jewish lives... but that's not true. Israel are the ones trying to target militants and not civilians.. When was the last time you saw a Palestinian militant NOT hide behind a civilian and actually target a soldier....?

Again, untrue. If Israeli soldiers don't use human shields, why did the Israeli High Court ban the practise in 2005?

Ignorant relatives? They were worried sick.. And tried to get as much info. as they could.. But for instance they said hardly any news program shows anything about Iran nowadays...

Iran, Israel, Palestine, etc., is on the news and current affairs programs here EVERY day, including a dedicated news channel in at least 20 different languages, as much as any other country, and that's free to air TV. Satellite TV here has at least a dozen news channels from all over the world.

Every war after 1949 was a result of the Arabs losing in the previous one.. that's what I meant.

That still implies that Israel was invaded in 1967, it also ignores the Israeli attack on Egypt in 1956.

And Israel hasn't demolished houses in a while now since there's no reason to it. They demolished houses of suicide bombers and their family.. Roughly an eye for an eye thing..

This is just not true, as I've pointed out to you before, read this site, run by Israelis. Most demolitions are carried out to build roads to settlements and for 'security' areas around settlements, ALL of which are illegal.

The Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions

List of Demolitions

Israeli soldiers demolished homes in three Palestinian villages near bypass road 317 on 14 February, the Christian Peacemaker Team reports. Starting in Imneizil at around 9am about forty Israeli soldiers with two bulldozers demolished one home, an animal pen and a stone bake-oven. At noon the soldiers moved to Qawawis where they demolished the homes of five families and one bake-oven, then on to Um Al-Kher where they demolished one home and damaged a wall of another home.

At Imneizil several young children were in their home eating when the Israeli military arrived; the soldiers gave the family time to get out, but did not give them time to remove their personal belongings. The animal pen was demolished with a few animals inside; two lambs were injured. The Palestinian family began immediately to build a makeshift pen for the animals as the majority of the sheep were just returning from grazing in the fields.

In the village of Qawawis one of the demolished homes was over sixty-five years old, and sheltered two families.

[tralalala]

How the hell can that imply they were invaded?! My god you can't understand that Israel attacked the other armies before they attacked them.. How the hell can you understand from those single words that Israel was invaded? I never even used the word invade/invaded..

Just because you get all those channels doesn't mean you're not being brainwashed, does it? Even if not, I'm sure it gives you only one side of the story.

Israeli soldiers attack militants. Palestinian militants attack civilians AND soldiers. It's as simple as that. If Israel didn't have to worry about attacking civilians, I'm positive there wouldn't have been a Palestine... from way back over 40 years ago. But it's just a known fact Israel is more humane.

[Ava Estelle]

How the hell can that imply they were invaded?! My god you can't understand that Israel attacked the other armies before they attacked them.. How the hell can you understand from those single words that Israel was invaded? I never even used the word invade/invaded..

Just because you get all those channels doesn't mean you're not being brainwashed, does it? Even if not, I'm sure it gives you only one side of the story.

Israeli soldiers attack militants. Palestinian militants attack civilians AND soldiers. It's as simple as that. If Israel didn't have to worry about attacking civilians, I'm positive there wouldn't have been a Palestine... from way back over 40 years ago. But it's just a known fact Israel is more humane.

Israel more humane? What a sick joke that is, last July you dropped cluster bombs on Lebanese civilians, killing over 1,000 of them, humane my arse!

Israeli soldiers regularly torture and kill children, there is video of them breaking bones of kids.

Video of Israeli soldiers breaking the bones of kids ..

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You're cracking up now, and again refuse to answer points you have been proven wrong about.

Human shields? Demolishing houses? You argue against invasions!

I've told you before, and you can believe what you like, Western media is, on the whole, immensely biased towards Israel, not the other way round.

Israel is a pariah state, murderers and torturers, in violation of every convention of human rights.

[tralalala]

Can you think of any other way to fight back at Hezbollah, who were hiding inside civilian houses? Give me a break, please, you keep talking as if the Palestinians are the most amazing people in the world. They are people who cannot get enough of themselves, until they are slapped hard in the face to bring them back to reality.

You think that video is amazing.. How about all those videos of militants chopping off heads? eh?

Human shields - Were not used as shields. They were used to help find out where the militants were hiding (and what a surprise, they were hiding in civilian houses). Demolishing houses - The houses that were demolished (WERE), belonged to people who frankly should not be allowed to breathe our air.


You seem to think I and my people do not deserve to live or speak. You seem to me like a person who would gladly wipe Israel off the map. You seem to me like most of the extreme-left wingers, which will give the Arabs everything, pay them, give them more and more money, and see what they do with it.. You seem to me like someone who will wake up only when Iran decides to bomb Australia.. Or when a Muslim decides that Australians are too western for him, and he'll go kill some with a bomb.


Honestly, it's just a matter of time.


P.S: I may have been a bit blatant, but I've really been pissed off by the fact you think Israel are the people who need to pack up and leave because they are the most horrible people in the world. I feel the worst people are the ones who aren't willing to come over and try living in such a situation with rockets flying over our heads and people who could explode within seconds in our buses, schools, malls etc.

[tralalala]

Oh and another thing.. The people in that video you claim to be Israeli soldiers.. are in fact not.

The reason being:
1) Soldiers in the Israeli army, either have their weapon in hand, or round the front. Those people have the weapons at the back.
2) They have not had haircuts.. In the Israeli army soldiers MUST have their hair cut right down.. Unlike the people in that video.
3) They don't even look Israeli.. They look more Arab..

[j2k4]

Oh and another thing.. The people in that video you claim to be Israeli soldiers.. are in fact not.

The reason being:
1) Soldiers in the Israeli army, either have their weapon in hand, or round the front. Those people have the weapons at the back.
2) They have not had haircuts.. In the Israeli army soldiers MUST have their hair cut right down.. Unlike the people in that video.
3) They don't even look Israeli.. They look more Arab..

Uh-oh, Ava...mind your slip.

[Ava Estelle]

This conversation is over as far as I'm concerned. You just keep on making excuses, and telling lies and bullshit, now you accuse me of every kind of crap.

You carry on in your nasty little world, Iran will have nukes soon, they'll give them to Hezbollah, then you'll all get what's coming to you. Peace is in the hands of Israel, who go out of their way to prevent it. If you get wiped out it will be your own fault.

Don't bother replying to this, I've had all the crap from you I can take.

[Ava Estelle]

Uh-oh, Ava...mind your slip.

If you believe that crap j2 then you're as bad as him, these videos are everywhere, it is well documented, they are Israeli soldiers.

Did you answer ilw yet? Another j2 fuck up. Ice sheets crashing into the sea are a sign of GROWTH!

[tralalala]

How can you prove they are Israeli? Just because Al-Jazeera say they are, means it's true..?
All I accuse you of is not taking in the whole story so you can possibly make up your mind after seeing the WHOLE story.. I'm not here to annoy anyone or make someone feel like they hate me for arguing.. I think this conversation went pretty well, it was interesting, and now I can see what your views on the situation are