Did any of our British members...

[bigboab]

Well, I think everyone agrees that global warming is happening and know its official. As if we didn't know this already. Its good to see that money is being well spent on reports that tell us what we already know.

I think the same was said about Weapons Of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
Sorry Kev.

[j2k4]

Well, I think everyone agrees that global warming is happening and know its official. As if we didn't know this already. Its good to see that money is being well spent on reports that tell us what we already know.

I think the same was said about Weapons Of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
Sorry Kev.

You lost me, Boab.

[bigboab]

I think the same was said about Weapons Of Mass Destruction in Iraq.
Sorry Kev.

You lost me, Boab.

I promised never to mention WMD again.

[j2k4]

You lost me, Boab.

I promised never to mention WMD again.

Not that I'd remember.

[vidcc]

Here's an example of misrepresentation

Freezing Temps & Snow Falls, Yet Nets
Hype 'Dire' Global Warming


The ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts on Friday all hyped the "dire" warning on global warming from the UN's "prestigious" Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), with the CBS Evening News leading with two full stories. But ABC's Charles Gibson acknowledged "a bit of irony on the day global warming report was released," given "parts of the Northeast are digging out from April snow" as "temperatures could be 20 to 40 degrees below normal," making it "colder on Easter day than on Christmas day." NBC anchor Brian Williams followed up his newscast's global warming story with how "the problem isn't warming but what could be a record cold Easter weekend in parts of this country." CBS anchor Russ Mitchell didn't point out any contradiction with the hyperbolic stories on global warming as he described the current weather simply as "strange" since "a Spring freeze is on" in the Northeast

source

The phenomenon of global warming doesn’t mean the planet is getting warmer in a uniform way. "global" and "local" are not the same things.

[tracydani3]

I'm not convinced one way or the other about us causing global warming, but I agree we should be doing whatever we can to limit/eliminate our need for non renewable energy.

I read a couple articles this past week comparing current fuel economy to that of the Model T ford. Lets just say, the current ford they used (can't remember which) had 18 mpg and the model T had 25mpg. The average car has around 27 and again, the model T had 25. Not much of and advance in all this time as far as fuel efficiency I'd say.

We pay for super performance and speed (cars going 100+ mph) when we generally do not need to haul heavy loads and can't legally drive faster then 65mph (US).

Saw another where Chevy (I think) made a hybrid out of one of it's SUV's and went from 15mpg to a whopping 18.

We have the same thing with our housing wasting resources everywhere.

We flush and average of 5 gallons of clean drinkable water with every 16 ounces of body waste(again, US). Water reducing, or better yet, grey water toilets or composting toilets would save an insane amount of water, not to mention eliminate the need to purify water that will only end up washing our crap down the sewers to be treaded yet again before being sent to sea. We pay to have that water clean both before and after flushing it straight down the toilet.

Houses can be built in passive solar designs allowing for the sun (and shade) to both heat and cool our homes and reduce the majority of our home energy needs.

Homes being built out of strawbale are making a comeback and are one of the best insulating materials around (considering it is generally a waste product, renewable and comparatively easy to build with).

Earth sheltered, or bermed homes are a great way to go as well, allowing you to save plenty energy as well as have a green roof leaving it for the animals or even gardening which also save about 90% of the water that hits it from going to the sewer (again eliminating the need for treatment before sending it to sea).

I have never been an environmentalist type, and have no calluses on my arms from hugging my trees, but recently I have come across some interesting reading materials on alternative housing that have opened my eyes to a LOT of wasteful practices that are very easily eliminated without even coming close to changing the average persons lifestyle.

Many, if not most of these things have been done in the past, and with modern advances can be done even easier then before if we would just look around and learn a bit for ourselves.

Personally, I am a renter and am limited to the things I can do to my home. But I have changed every light to cfl's and am working on plans to get my landlord to allow us to update/modify certain things in our home allowing us to save water and energy. Simple solar water heaters, water collectors for grey water use of flushing our toilets, eventually solar panels whatever we can do without changing the home itself, which will in turn help increase its value as energy and water becomes more expensive or hard to come by.

[mossy123]

Personally we are going to blow each other to bits before global warming will affect us.

[j2k4]

Personally we are going to blow each other's bits before global warming will affect us.

I'll have to opt out on that.

[lynx]

Personally we are going to blow each other's bits before global warming will affect us.

I'll have to opt out on that.

I thought you would have obliged him and blown him to bits.

[j2k4]

I'll have to opt out on that.

I thought you would have obliged him and blown him to bits.

Nah.