Censorship

[insanebassman]

Meat Good!

Fur ok

Leather AWSOME!!!

Censorship bad shit.

The neanderthol has spoken(sp?)

[Lamsey]

Originally posted by clocker@4 June 2003 - 21:17
A jib is a sail and how it's cut refers to how well it is deployed.

He thinks you look like a boat, Lamsey.

ok...

Meat Good!

Fur ok

Leather AWSOME!!!

Censorship bad shit.

You forgot: Killing bad.

All of the above can be manufactured synthetically - no need for the slaughter of innocent life.

[insanebassman]

I am an animal.
I am an omnivore.
I kill for food (yes , I hunt.)
The animals I kill, or buy prekilled for my pleasure, are neither innocent or guilty. They are prey. Every animal is potential food. Even us. (Ask the pygmies in africa, they are still fair game there from what I gather.) I honestly enjoy the hunt. The primal and undeniable sense of freedom provided by stalking through the trees, and the challenge of remaining silent as I track my prey. I give as much of myself to the hunt as I take in life. I am stronger, and more in tune with life and nature because I become part of the full cycle.

No, there is a need...

[Lamsey]

You're avoiding the issue, BassMan. Desensitisation does not make killing morally acceptable.

Adolf Hitler declared the Jews as a form of 'prey'. You are doing the same thing if you deny any living being the right to live.


If you have to kill to stay alive, then that is your choice and it could perhaps be justified (although I personally would never put my life before anyone or anything else's).
But if you kill for fun or for material gain, then you are just the same as Hitler, Paul Pott and co. (albeit on a lesser scale).


P.S. Thank you for responding in a civilised manner. This is good to see; there may be hope for you yet

[PB Montgolfier]

Is this us off again.

People who hunt for sport are idiots. If they think that putting their pleasure before the life of another creature is acceptable then they are despicable and selfish.

However I cannot complain about anyone who eats what they kill, neither I would suggest can anyone other than a total vegan. We all use animal products (other than those who chose not to, see earlier) and much as we do not pull the trigger ourselves we are complicit.

Specifically to Lamsay, though to everyone else. Unless you are a vegan (perhaps by another name) you really do have to get off the high horse. If however you are and I suspect it is the case with Lamsey, fill your boots. Give them hell wee man.

One more thing, Farmers kill for material gain. I think it is a bit harsh to liken them to Hitler et al.

[Lamsey]

One more thing, Farmers kill for material gain. I think it is a bit harsh to liken them to Hitler et al.

I'm a vegetarian and always have been ( ). I don't think it's h4s5h to say so.

[summerlinda]

/me likes Lamsey

[PB Montgolfier]

Originally posted by Lamsey@4 June 2003 - 21:04

One more thing, Farmers kill for material gain. I think it is a bit harsh to liken them to Hitler et al.

I'm a vegetarian and always have been ( ). I don't think it's h4s5h to say so.

Yes but are you a vegan.

Do you wear leather shoes. Do you eat cheese with rennet (excuse the spelling) do you in fact exploit animals in any way.

[Lamsey]

@ summerlinda -

@ PB Montgolfier - I do not eat any food that has come from the abuse of animals. I only eat Organic free range eggs, I only drink Organic milk. And I wear synthetic leather trainers (I don't even own proper shoes&#33

(sorry, couldn't resist saying that again)

[PB Montgolfier]

Originally posted by Lamsey@4 June 2003 - 21:11
@ summerlinda -

@ PB Montgolfier - (sorry, couldn't resist saying that again)

You still haven't answered the Vegan question tho' neither has Linda.

I know people who claim to be vegetarian who eat fish btw.

So bottom line, can you say that you don't exploit animals in any way - leather shoes, rennet, eggs, milk etc.

I still think it's h4r5h (if that's how you spell it here) to liken farmers to Hitler etc. It means that you equate human life to that of a cow and I'm sorry but I can't agree. Neither I would suspect would the 6,000,000 Jews or their families who were the victims of the holocaust.

To each his own I suppose.