Cows Or Humans

[PB Montgolfier]

Originally posted by Lamsey@4 June 2003 - 23:09

(PB Montgolfier)
To liken intensive farming to concentration camps is frankly beyond my comprehension.

I think it's something to do with the battery farming of chickens for instance. They are certainly crammed in (concentrated>concentration) so I can see the likeness.

Like I said before, it's not a 100% identical scenario, but certainly it consists of a vast number of living beings crammed into inhumane conditions until their death

Much worse, in fact.

Yes, the Jews were killed horrifically in concentration camps and I do not want to diminish the ghastly nature of this.

But in addition to death, the chickens must also face years of torment and exploitation. This is worse!

I go beyond stunned.

You now say that intensive farming of chickens is worse than the holocaust.

These were human being who were subjected to vivisection, conscious, to allow scientific experimentation.

They were starved, they were used as slave labour, they watched their wives or husbands and children raped and tortured and after years they died a horrific death.

[Tyke]

Humans do NOT need meat, as long as you get all your nutrients

That means if you're veggie and don't like Marmite you're stuffed for your B12

[nahan]

Aniamls were put on this earth for one reason ,to provide for humans.
Not so we could provide for them.
Thats why they werent created with the intellect of ours,they were created for a purpose.

[summerlinda]

Originally posted by Tyke@5 June 2003 - 00:21

Humans do NOT need meat, as long as you get all your nutrients

That means if you're veggie and don't like Marmite you're stuffed for your B12

I dont eat Marmite

[summerlinda]

Originally posted by nahan@5 June 2003 - 00:23
Aniamls were put on this earth for one reason ,to provide for humans.
Not so we could provide for them.
Thats why they werent created with the intellect of ours,they were created for a purpose.

In fact, humas are animals [mammals], so whats your point?

[nahan]

Read it again

[Tyke]

I hate to ask but who decided this?

[PB Montgolfier]

Originally posted by nahan@4 June 2003 - 23:23
Aniamls were put on this earth for one reason ,to provide for humans.
Not so we could provide for them.
Thats why they werent created with the intellect of ours,they were created for a purpose.

At least this bit is simple.

You are an idiot.

[Lamsey]

@PB:

You are still clinging to the view that it doesn't count when it happens to chickens because they're not human.

You must consider this; I abhor all cruelty, no matter who it is inflicted upon. Consider a Jew Battery Farm - that would be as horrific to you as a Chicken Battery Farm is to me.


I do not diminish the horrors of the Holocaust. You are diminishing the horrors of battery life.

It is not uncommon for a chicken to spend all of its natural life in a wire box barely big enough to fit into. It may never open its wings or move its feet more than an inch. It is force-fed fed growth hormones and all sorts of chemicals. Its eggs are harvested and then it is taken to a chicken slaughtering machine, which I will not describe in case anyone squeamish reads it (it makes me :x ).

Now imagine that happening to a human.
My view is that it shouldn't happen to a chicken either.



@ Tyke:

That means if you're veggie and don't like Marmite you're stuffed for your B12

Not really, you can slip Marmite into soup and you don't notice it. But you still get the goodness.

[Lamsey]

Nahan is a Troll and should thus be ignored, people.

He just wants a reaction - don't give it to the little boy.