Gun's - Good Or Bad?

[chalice]

Hobbes,
haven't you wasted your time anyway by scrutinising Tikibonbon's logic?
Billy's original query was a very straightfoward one... Guns- Good or bad.
Now Tik's closing statement may have been forgivably naive but at least he posted on topic.
It serves no purpose in this argument to highlight another member's well-intentioned mistakes
So what's it gonna be Hobbes, good or bad?
I appreciate your skills as a debator but don't you think that your response was rather pedantic?

[jetje]

Originally posted by nahan@5 June 2003 - 15:19
Why do I bother.Guns are also produced for and with protection in mind.
If we didnt need protection we wouldnt need guns.

condoms are for protections... guns only shoot holes in them... away your protection...


the only good gun is a water pistol

btw there was some sense in the remark of Infested cats... guns don't kill people people kill people..
to bad it guns make it for some people more easy...

[crazy_billy_bats]

im glad im not alone in my views....

we may have hope yet to rid this world of these disgusting weapons.

then again, maybe there is no hope, as thousands of these things are being produced and sold(by governments as well i might add, as im sure you are all aware) every day.

time will tell, i suppose.

[ilw]

In people under 20 in the US, gun related death is the second biggest killer to car accidents and in some states gun related deaths actually exceed car accidents.

[nahan]

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+5 June 2003 - 14:33--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 5 June 2003 - 14:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--nahan@5 June 2003 - 13:30

Yes ,in a perfect world though.

i dont think this would make it perfect as such, more a world where there are less deaths, people would still destroy eachother, but nowhere near on the scale of nowadays. therefore, a much much better world IMO

its sad that this would just take.....decades, i suppose people?? [/b][/quote]
If there was no guns then some other wepon would be substituted.
For those who only wish harm on others.

[clocker]

Originally posted by nahan+5 June 2003 - 07:30--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nahan @ 5 June 2003 - 07:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--crazy_billy_bats@5 June 2003 - 14:26
but wont less people die if there are less guns?

isnt that better for society, and indeed the world, as a whole?

Yes ,in a perfect world though. [/b][/quote]
My suggestion would be, until we achieve that perfect world, make all guns look like this...



Maybe people would think twice about whipping this out...

[crazy_billy_bats]

Originally posted by clocker+5 June 2003 - 13:38--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 5 June 2003 - 13:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -nahan@5 June 2003 - 07:30
<!--QuoteBegin--crazy_billy_bats

@5 June 2003 - 14:26
but wont less people die if there are less guns?

isnt that better for society, and indeed the world, as a whole?

Yes ,in a perfect world though.

My suggestion would be, until we achieve that perfect world, make all guns look like this...



Maybe people would think twice about whipping this out... [/b][/quote]


need a bit of light-heartedness....
i agree, that would be ok &#33;&#33;

but well, it isnt an ideal world is it?
there are simply too many guns and too many idiots that dont know what to do with them (ie - throw them in the bin or decommision them, as im sure if u put it in your bin someone would take it and use it)

[TheDave]

blame the media, havent you all seen bowling for columbine

[nahan]

Originally posted by ilw@5 June 2003 - 14:36
In people under 20 in the US, gun related death is the second biggest killer to car accidents and in some states gun related deaths actually exceed car accidents.

And in how many of these cases were drugs and alcohol invovled.
Directly and indirectly.

[jetje]

Originally posted by nahan+5 June 2003 - 15:44--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nahan @ 5 June 2003 - 15:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--ilw@5 June 2003 - 14:36
In people under 20 in the US, gun related death is the second biggest killer to car accidents and in some states gun related deaths actually exceed car accidents.

And in how many of these cases were drugs and alcohol invovled.
Directly and indirectly. [/b][/quote]
But the question is would they have done it that easy if the y hadn&#39;t have a gun within reach of hand...

If you don&#39;t have a gun you can&#39;t shoot... &#33;