Gun's - Good Or Bad?

[clocker]

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats+5 June 2003 - 07:41--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (crazy_billy_bats @ 5 June 2003 - 07:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by -clocker@5 June 2003 - 13:38

Originally posted by -nahan@5 June 2003 - 07:30
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@5 June 2003 - 14:26
but wont less people die if there are less guns?

isnt that better for society, and indeed the world, as a whole?

Yes ,in a perfect world though.

My suggestion would be, until we achieve that perfect world, make all guns look like this...



Maybe people would think twice about whipping this out...

need a bit of light-heartedness....
i agree, that would be ok &#33;&#33;

but well, it isnt an ideal world is it?
there are simply too many guns and too many idiots that dont know what to do with them (ie - throw them in the bin or decommision them, as im sure if u put it in your bin someone would take it and use it) [/b][/quote]
I wasn&#39;t being light-hearted.

I was serious.
If guns looked silly/embarrassing instead of like something that the Terminator would brandish, I think they&#39;d lose a lot of their appeal.

[crazy_billy_bats]

Originally posted by clocker@5 June 2003 - 13:52

I wasn&#39;t being light-hearted.

I was serious.
If guns looked silly/embarrassing instead of like something that the Terminator would brandish, I think they&#39;d lose a lot of their appeal.

well ok then, dont post a picture of a penis-shaped gun next time then please.
i consider that, including the line
"Maybe people would think twice about whipping this out... "
light hearted.

[nahan]

This is like saying knives are bad and should be banned.

[crazy_billy_bats]

Originally posted by jetje@5 June 2003 - 13:51

But the question is would they have done it that easy if the y hadn&#39;t have a gun within reach of hand...

If you don&#39;t have a gun you can&#39;t shoot... &#33;

This is as simply as it can be put at the moment......how can anyone argue against that?
cant everyone just admit that they are bad?
it is plainly obvious to me, why not to others, regardless of what country they come from?&#33;

[nahan]

They are equally good .

[clocker]

Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@5 June 2003 - 07:55

well ok then, dont post a picture of a penis-shaped gun next time then please.
i consider that, including the line
"Maybe people would think twice about whipping this out...&nbsp; "
light hearted.

Why not post a picture of the penis gun?
Do you find it more offensive than Nahan&#39;s sigpic?

"maybe people would think twice about whipping this out... " is not light-hearted, it&#39;s true.

Do you think that if this

fired bullets, that Nahan would have it featured as his signature along with the phrase "Llook at me"?

I don&#39;t.

[crazy_billy_bats]

Originally posted by clocker@5 June 2003 - 14:26

Do you find it more offensive than Nahan&#39;s sigpic?

no i said i didnt find it offensive i found it light-hearted.

anyway i dont think your contribution had much to say about the serious topic that is gun-culture nowadays.
Penis-shaped guns are a ridiculous alternative to normal guns (if it was an alternative you were proposing), and can only be seen as some form of a joke, however not being funny in the slightest.

a (normal) alternative to me is to have no guns at all, never mind penis-shaped ones, then no one would have the stigma that surrounds producing a weapon shaped like male genetalia.
or not as many people would be dead.
but then again, maybe you were just joking.

[clocker]

CBB,
You insist on missing the point don&#39;t you?

I think that a big part of the love affair with weaponry is that it looks so damn cool. There is a lot of testosterone and macho posturing tied up in waving around a weapon that looks just like James Bond&#39;s.
If guns looked like penises or Raggety Ann then this component of the attraction would be gone.
See?

[crazy_billy_bats]

Originally posted by clocker@5 June 2003 - 14:47
CBB,
You insist on missing the point don&#39;t you?

I think that a big part of the love affair with weaponry is that it looks so damn cool. There is a lot of testosterone and macho posturing tied up in waving around a weapon that looks just like James Bond&#39;s.
If guns looked like penises or Raggety Ann then this component of the attraction would be gone.
See?

no i dont insist on missing anything, sorry to dissapoint you.

i agree of course the attraction of holding a weapon etc is a big part of it, however there was still no need to post a picture of a penis shaped gun.

you could have made this point much earlier, but insisted in continuing on, frankly being quite rude to me (again).

oh well id rather go and talk about something else now, i dont want to argue with u, i would rather talk about the real implications of guns rather than their shape or the machoness that surrounds them.

to me, a more valid point is that we need to go to the companies that produce the weapons, start there, we have to start somewhere.

[crazy_billy_bats]

does no one else think that it is possible (some way)to try and bring down the huge weapons-producing companies?

i would like to hear ways as im not sure myself&#33;&#33;&#33;