5 Reasons Not To Be Afraid Of The Riaa

[internet.news]

it is nothing personal against these people at RIAA who do not share their thoughts openly - ok but it ijust my feelings - don't take it to serious: they can just kiss my...
I share 1015 Files at the moment, and if they want they should sue me - yes, come on and sue me if you want, but be sure I will tell you my opinion: there is more behind sharing, we have to share our thoughts openly to udnerstand each other better.

ok, thanks anyway, david.

* just my thoughts *

[internet.news]

"... we live in a capitalistic society that’s ruled by Dollar Almighty ..."

Yes, but if everyone would not share hisorher thoughts openly to udnerstand each
other better, this would not be good. And there is more behind sharing: "We have
to share our thoughts openly to understand each other better." (sha're@KaZaA)

On the other side you are right, if the artist of the CD is good I would support
him with money or any other help I can offer so he can contniue making good music :) But the problem for some people maybe: if you buy a cd in a shop the artist get less perentages per sold cd than the music company :(

But some artist who are not so well known yet also are selling their Cds on streets in my City Nuremberg (Europe) - means: directly. And when I support the artist he
get all the money :) all my help :)

thanks anyway, david.

[fastrider28]

OK OK... firtst of all... EVERYBODY should read the definition of Copyright -

cop·y·right ( P ) Pronunciation Key (Cop-p-rite)
n. Abbr. c. or cop.
The legal right granted to an author, composer, playwright, publisher, or distributor to exclusive publication, production, sale, or distribution of a literary, musical, dramatic, or artistic work.

By definition, if you are not doing any of the following, there is nothing to worry about. Download all you want, make CD's for yourselves and friends, Hide your files being shared by use of K-lite's features. They are going after people who are sharing over 1000 files and after all they really don't have the jurisdiction to do so. According to the DMCAct of 1998:

Registration as a Prerequisite to Suit
The remaining technical amendment relates to the prohibition in both treaties
against conditioning the exercise or enjoyment of rights on the fulfillment of
formalities. Section 411(a) of the Copyright Act requires claims to copyright to be
registered with the Copyright Office before a lawsuit can be initiated by the copyright
owner, but exempts many foreign works in order to comply with existing treaty
obligations under the Berne Convention. Section 102(d) of the DMCA amends section
411(a) by broadening the exemption to cover all foreign works.

This means that in order for these Lawsuits to have been filed.... The copyright holders have to have filed a formal claim of Copyright and that the Artist or Copyright owner or his/her subsidaries and affiliates can file lawsuit against an individual. So if any lawsuit is to be filed, it has to be done by EACH and EVERY Copyright owner or his/her subsidaries and/or affiliates. The RIAA is not any of the above... They are not a Copyright owner, subsidary or affiliate. They are an organization with invested interests. They legally don't have the right to sue.... otherwise I can or you can sue any individual for the copyright of any materials...

Another point of interest is the following:

Any person injured by a violation of section 1201 or 1202 may bring a civil
action in Federal court. Section 1203 gives courts the power to grant a range of
equitable and monetary remedies similar to those available under the Copyright Act,
including statutory damages. The court has discretion to reduce or remit damages in
cases of innocent violations, where the violator proves that it was not aware and had
no reason to believe its acts constituted a violation. (Section 1203©(5)(A)). Special
protection is given to nonprofit libraries, archives and educational institutions, which
are entitled to a complete remission of damages in these circumstances. (Section
1203©(5)(B)).
In addition, it is a criminal offense to violate section 1201 or 1202 wilfully and
for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain. Under section 1204
penalties range up to a $500,000 fine or up to five years imprisonment for a [/U], and up to a $1,000,000 fine or up to 10 years imprisonment for subsequent
offenses. Nonprofit libraries, archives and educational institutions are entirely
exempted from criminal liability. (Section 1204(B)).

If you are one of the individuals involved in this lawsuit circus... Please take this advise and offer it to your lawyers. If your lawyers do not accept this information then they are not there fighting for you. Fire them and get a real attorney.

The DMCA can be downloaded in PDF version from the following Internet Web Site: http://www.loc.gov/copyright/legislation/dmca.pdf

Please everyone, read this document and understand it, it can keep you from being sued and losing!

[DenDen2004]

Originally posted by vaughn_le@6 July 2003 - 07:26
You guys are scaring me... I don't know all these bs about suing and arresting me but all i have to say is.... "I HAVE A RIGHT TO PRIVACY" I do what I do. But seeing how it is on the news and all these bs companies coming after users... It kinda gets to my head. I mean if you look at it, 1 or a million will be sued right? So whatever they sue 1 million? wouldn't i be part of that 1 million? Jeez... I don't download a lot, but when I do its usually a couple of gigs and I do leave my computer on for sharing, Is that an easy way for them to get me? I don't think so. I like the odds of 200,000,000 users sharing, but it wouldn't surprise me that all the 200 mill gets sued leaving all of us handicap from ever sharing again. I think all of us should take a stand! and let the base of one of the amendment be our cause... lol Its our right to do what we wish in our homes and our property. All all you guys/gals out of the USA... all i can say is... DAMN YOU SO LUCKY! lol later!

200mil? lol thats like suing almost every person in the US... (ok ok us has about 270mill people but you know what i mean) im afraid thats just not feasable.

[ilovepiano]

Just been reading through this thread and noticed someone was on about copyright with classical music. The copyright on a piece of music ie. the order of the notes, expires 50 years after the composers death. What does not expire is the copyright of the recording. Yeah, Mozart has been dead a while, you won't get in trouble making a remix of one of his concertos if you play the piano yourself, but if you sampled a recording then you would. The orchestra would not need permission to give a public performance, but if you share classical CDs you are breaking the law as much as anyone else. It is the recording that is copyrighted, not the music.

[CoolMac]

I've got a question..... I live far outside U.S. RIIA whatever it is has no power on my country right? even if it does there's little possibilities of doing somethin?

[Cotton]

This sort of crap can soon become a universal throughout many countries just look at movie copyright laws they span over 85% of the world.

But all this bs is realy pissin me off im not scared of gettin caught cause i am 100% possitive im not going to get caught and if i do there is no way in hell im pay anything, first of all i dont know the price of Cds anywhere else but in Australia they want on average about $30 for a dam CD now this is bs these greedie ass record companys can kiss my grits i refuse to pay this, $10 is a reasonable price for a full cd but then i only want a few songs most of the time not full cd's, anyway i HATE u RIAA and im going to download more songs cause of all this shit and im going to start burning and selling cds u basteds.

Why arnt they going after Kazaa owners like they did with napster?

Man i hate these greedie PHUCKS

[Cotton]

Originally posted by CoolMac@8 October 2003 - 03:17
I've got a question..... I live far outside U.S. RIIA whatever it is has no power on my country right? even if it does there's little possibilities of doing somethin?

Even if they do have power in your countrie there would be record companys in ur countrie they could fund to sue you(but they wont). Dont take shit from these fucks, But if you have alote of files your sharing or even worse a website letin dling of song files, just rig up your computer with some handy tools so they have nothing if they arrest u, eg. Registry Shreader (if its not runed of 15seconds after you comp starts BOM your Hd is erased, Encrpty you HD. The previous tips r only for peopl sharing massive amounts and r a legitamate target of the RIAA.

Send those Basteds to hell, DONT PURCHASE CD'S, LET THESE BASTEDS STARVE.

[Sparkle1984]

Why arnt they going after Kazaa owners like they did with napster?

I thought they already were. If you search for news about it, you will find out.

But of course they'll never be able to shut down this network, because it's decentralised.

[Hobo King]

About the earlier thing on how the riaa isnt a copyright holder arnt they or employed by the people who distribute the music for sale Recording Industry Association of America mmmm sounds like someone who would have a copyright on music... Oh and where in the constitution does it say anything about the right to privacy, while i do think there should be one I read it and the only thing that you could even misconstrue as the right to privacy (14th amendment) is a pretty far fetch