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    Does anyone knows that Agent Smith is the only "human" in the Matrix.Morpheus and Trinity are programs.Morpheus's purpose was to find the Oneand deliver him
    to the Architect. Trinity's purpose is to control the Oneby getting in love with
    him. Read more:Matrix ReloadedThis could be complete baloney but here is a take on this movie...Zion isa program, just like the Matrix. How is Neo able to figure
    out that he isable to stop the sentinels in Zion near the end of the film? The
    spoongiven to him earlier. It had obviously been bent loads, but how outsidethe Matrix??
    This gave Neo the inspiration and the understanding that Zionis still a matrix.The One explained "The One" is a program, but has to be "attached" tosomeone in
    the Matrix.
    So Mr. Anderson got it in the 6th version of theMatrix. Then "The One"
    program's purpose is to allow Zion to be destroyedthen to rebuild it. The reason for
    this is because of anomalies - the 1%of humans that don't accept the Matrix. These
    are all brought out of theMatrix program and into the Zion program by the "Morpheus" program andother similar "ship captain" programs. Then once all the anomalies are outof the Matrix (and in Zion), that is the time for Zion to be destroyed,thus killing all the anomalies off. The Matrix is then upgraded, huscreating the next version of the Matrix, but Zion must be rebuilt so thatthe next lot of anomalies can be brought out again so that they can bedestroyed. This is the feedback-loop, and is the reason to retain ahandful of people so that Zion can be rebuilt. So this is why Neo said theprophecy was a lie - the One's purpose was not to end the war as theprophecy stated. Unfortunately, "The One" program must be re-used eachtime, or copied, so it can be "attached" to a new anomaly inside theMatrix. So what happens to the old "The One" program? It faces deletion,and as the Oracle explained, it goes into exile instead, just like theFrench bloke (the Merovingian) did.
    He was the first One (probably fromthe second version of the Matrix), and once he fulfilled his duty, hebecame an exile program and "abdicated" his "Oneness" by choosingPersephone and power.
    This is evident in the bogs when Persephone asks Neoto kiss her. She says she
    wants him to kiss her so she can feel what it islike again to be kissed by something
    close to human, just like theMerovingian used to be. Then she says to Trinity that she envies her, butthat these things are not meant to last. So the Merovingian
    used to bejust like Neo - a One - thus proving further the feedback-loop
    explainedearlier.The correct door in the Architect's room Now there are two
    possibilitieshere: 1. All the previous One's chose the right door allowing a
    "temporarydissemination" of their code into the Matrix (i.e., the code they
    "carry"thus indicating Neo is indeed human), then he must select (unplug)
    23people from the Matrix to rebuild Zion. This takes away the possibilitythat
    stories from previous rebuilds of Zion will be carried through.
    ButMorpheus indicated in the first Matrix that this is the case anyway.
    Hesaid, "there was a man born inside, able to change things, it was he whofreed
    the first of us," - basically the One previous to Neo. And thisproves that the
    previous One chose the right door also. Neo's purpose isalso to choose the right door, but he does not because he faces deletionafterwards and has the choice of going into exile - programs choosing togo into exile is the one thing that can't be
    accounted for in programparameters. Thus, he chooses the left door instead this time. How was Neoable to choose the other door? Because of his extreme willpower? - Eventhe Architect indicated that he'd noticed this - "Interesting. That wasquicker than the others." Or more likely, because the Oracle upgraded hiscoding with the candy on the park bench. The candy/cookie was a method tochange the One's program.
    She said he has made a believer out of her -this is quite human-like and perhaps the previous One's didn't accept theupgrade candy, now she has hope... hope that Neo will finally choose theother door.2. All the previous One's chose the left door, saving Trinity and lettingZion fall. So this time is no different. But the Architect does
    say, "Youare here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every livinginhabitant
    terminated, its entire existence eradicated," and also, "thiswill be the sixth time we
    have destroyed it, and we have becomeexceedingly efficient at it," - assuming the
    Architect isn't lying, thenthey have already destroyed Zion (i.e., Zion has fallen)
    five times -i.e., the result of going through the left door.Morpheus and Trinity
    are programs.Morpheus's purpose was to find the One and deliver him to the
    Architect.Trinity's purpose is to control the One by getting in love with
    him.Trinity is supposed to be the mother of the new One every time the
    Matrixis Reloaded. That's why the sex scene was so important and why she wasnamed Trinity.The Architect says, "she is going to die, and there is nothing that youcan do to stop it." He was correct though because she did die just likeNeo did in the first Matrix (Oracle said he or Morpheus would, and shedidn't lie, but he came back to life). Trinity dies, but comes back tolife (we are using medical definition of death in all this of course&#33.The Architect has already laid down an ultimatum for Neo choosing the leftdoor: The Architect - "Failure to comply with this process will result ina cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, whichcoupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in theextinction of the entire human race."Neo - "You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings tosurvive."The Architect - "There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept.However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept theresponsibility for the death of every human being in this world."Looking at this further, the Architect does say "coupled" with the extermination of Zion will the human race be exterminated. So he sayseveryone
    connected to the Matrix will die, but if Zion is notexterminated, the human race
    will not necessarily die. Also, there islikely to be a time-window between
    not going through the right door, andthe cataclysmic crash, thus allowing Neo
    to unplug as many as possiblefrom the Matrix, then those people won't die. This will
    be the start ofthe next Zion. As for the Matrix, a cataclysmic crash doesn't mean
    the endof the Matrix - just needs rebooting or reloading.Agent Smith
    explainedAgent Smith is the only "human" in this world. He's the one spreadinghimself like a virus replicating himself over and over until the Matrixwill finally get overloaded and fail. Smith is the one who wants to getout of the Matrix for good. He said so in the first Matrix, "I must getout of here, I must get free! And in this mind, is the key," squeezingMorpheus's temples, "my key! Once Zion is destroyed, there is no need forme to be here!" Smith knows that by killing Neo he can escape the Matrixbecause Neo is the key to resetting the Matrix, or to shut it off. It wasoriginally killing Neo (in the first Matrix) that allowed Smith to become powerful (cloning ability) - so killing Neo again will allow him to gainNeo's powers completely, and thus gain the power to shut down the Matrix.So where the hell did Smith come from if he wants to destroy the Matrix?He's obviously not meant to be there - he's a computer virus as he hasevery characteristic of a virus - he multiplies and spreads and infects(and emulates) other programs like one. He is exactly as he describedhumans at the end of the first Matrix - "You move to an area and youmultiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and theonly way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what itis? A virus." But who put him there? This will only be revealed inRevolutions
    (Revelations?) I guess - but I'm betting on humans in the realreal world, i.e.,
    outside of Zion and the Matrix. They're at war with themachines and trying to
    destroy them by infecting them with this virus -Agent Smith. So the irony
    with this theory is that Agent Smith representsthe human race!! Neo represents the
    machines! Agent Smith says to Neo justafter he's seen the Oracle that he became free when Neo destroyed him inthe first Matrix (remember when Neo entered his body and exploded him frominside out) - as a virus, Smith has the ability to "inherit" otherprograms' abilities and thus inherited some of Neo's.The anomaly explained The anomaly is all the humans that do not accept the Matrix. The Architectsays "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced quationinherent to the programming of the matrix.
    You are the eventuality of ananomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I
    have been unable toeliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical
    precision.While it remains a burden to sedulously avoid it, it is not unexpected,and thus not beyond a measure of control." This includes Neo, but Neo'sMatrix avatar is attached with the One program so that he can follow hispurpose as explained earlier under "The One explained". However, he isalso supposed to protect himself and destroy anything that gets in his way- i.e., Agent Smith - so that he may fulfil his purpose.
    Further provingNeo - and other non-accepters of the Matrix - are the anomaly,
    theArchitect says, "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalancedequation
    inherent to the programming of the matrix." The clue here isNeo's program
    name - "The One". Take one-third for example. 1 over 3 is0.33333 recurring. A
    computer cannot deal with recurring numbers, so mustaccept a limit, let's say
    0.33333 for argument's sake. Multiply by 3, youget 0.99999 - never 1.00000, where has the "remainder" 0.00001 (One) gone?This is the limitation of computers, this is the mathematical imprecisioninherent in programming (of the Matrix) and the eventuality of the Oneanomaly unable to be eliminated.What is the equation then?Not sure, but it definitely involves pi. The Keymaker refers to the windowof time to open the door to the mainframe as 314 seconds. 3.14 is pi tothree sig. figs., or the number of radians in half a circle.
    Half a circleis like the cross-section of a womb, similar to the alcove of Neo
    andTrinity's love scene - conceiving the next One? "NEO", incidently, is ananagram
    of "ONE". Trinity and Neo - one on one; a choice - one or one.Leads us to 101.
    "101" is mentioned numerous times in Matrix 1 andReloaded. Neo's room at the
    beginning, Merovingian is on the 101st floor,the 101 freeway of the car chase in
    Reloaded, then when Trinity is hackinginto the power plant system, she resets the
    password to Z10N0101. Freaky.Indicates that she is a program because that's not
    some random passwordshe's put in. 101 is binary for 5, which in zero-based
    binary counting:000 is 1, 001, is 2, 010 is 3, 011 is 4, 100 is 5, 101 is 6 - And this isthe 6th version of the Matrix!
    Then there's 303. 303 is the room Neo gotshot in Matrix 1, the Oracle lives in room
    303, it's also the hotel roomnumber Trinity is in in Matrix 1 and it's seen at the end when Neo fightsthe Agents and Smith and begins to literally see the code that
    makes upthe Matrix. 101 x 3 = 303, a trilogy, 3 + 0 + 3 = 6 = the 6th Matrix.Trinity means 3.Who is the "mother" that the Architect refers to?
    The Architect says, "Please," in an almost disapproving sense when Neosuggests
    the Oracle, but does not reveal who it really is or even directlythat Neo is
    wrong. The architect was the one who created the Matrix; theco-creator is neither
    Persephone nor the Oracle. Both of them are onlyprograms that have a purpose in the matrix, just like the rest. TheArchitect is in charge of the Matrix world and the
    co-creator is in chargeof Zion. She has almost the same age as the Architect.
    Therefore, thatwoman is the Head Counsellor, the only woman of importance that lives inZion and the one who asked for the two captains to volunteer at thecouncil meeting. She's the one who knew all along about the Matrix. Shewas the one who told Zion's Defence Minister to cool off and to letMorpheus do his work so things could go as planned. Or alternatively, itcould indeed be the Oracle. She is the only program that truly wantshumans to have a free choice... at the same time, she sees the future,because she knows the program code - she is like God - which is why Seraphprotects her - see "Who is Seraph?" below.What's so special about Neo's avatar?Neo is a skilled hacker, and his avatar in the Matrix is based on theperson that founded the AI of the original machines that eventually tookover the world... How? Take a look at the disc he gave to the bloke at thedoor at the beginning of Matrix 1. It said "DISC AI" on it. The hollowedbook Neo takes the disc out of is "Simulacra and Simulation" - acollection of essays by the French postmodernist philosopher JeanBaudrillard. He opens it to the section
    "on Nihilism" (meaning nothing istruly known, etc.). "Baudrillard's
    concept of simulation is the creationof the real through conceptual or 'mythological'
    models which have noconnection or origin in reality. The model becomes the
    determinant of ourperception of reality--the real." And Morpheus says, "Welcome to
    thedesert of the real," in Matrix 1. I'd say this book describes The Matrixto a tee. So this disc contains the key to the AI, and thus how to destroythe machines, so I
    think they'll use this info in Revolutions toultimately destroy the machines,
    which means he'll have to go back to thenightclub and find the guy he gave it to.Who is Seraph?The reason Seraph (the *beep* guy Neo meets before meeting the Oracle) hadgolden code and was so spectacular is that he came from the
    firstincarnation of the matrix, which was heaven. "Seraph" is singular for theplural
    "seraphim". The seraphim are the highest choir of angels andincluded amongst others: Lucifer, Gabriele, Raziel and Malaciah, and theysit on the 8th level of Heaven just one below God. So Seraph willobviously have a big part in Revolutions, but whose side will he be on -the machines or the humans?? That is the question.The TwinsThey are exiled programs that emulate the human myth of ghosts as theOracle explained. They are programs behaving badly.
    Persephone killed oneof the Merovingian's bodyguards with a silver bullet
    because he wasemulating a werewolf. So if the Twins could phase into ghost form,
    whydidn't he when his arm was trapped in the door of the garage? Was itbecause he was wounded or because he can't phase when his arm is trapped?No of course not. The doors of that building, when shut, always ledsomewhere else (usually in the mountains) when opened again without theKeymaker's key. So if it were slammed shut due to the Twin phasing intoghost form, the Twin's arm would've ended up god knows where, butcertainly not attached to the Twin's body.

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    i think i read like the first half a line.

    why does the title say about T3 when its about Matrix?

    Theres already an offical T3 thread. And Matrix thread.

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    That was crazy. Who comes up with these things....Good post.

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    Originally posted by crazy_billy_bats@25 June 2003 - 10:22
    i think i read like the first half a line.

    why does the title say about T3 when its about Matrix?

    Theres already an offical T3 thread. And Matrix thread.
    Topic header changed to reflect actual topic.
    "8-ball Corner Pocket"

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    man awsome work.....tell u wat u made me watch matrix-1 and reloaded once again in fact this figure is not going to be one...tell me how did u find this contacts with the director ......please keep me...i mean us....updated if u find out nething more...


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    Out of all the thories ive read. I think your is the most belibvable however my head is now so crammed full of theories im going to explode .

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    This is all in the official matrix revolutions thread and you (DICWAD) said that it aint official and you did not appear to believe it all!

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    System overload. I must reboot my brain now....

    That is seriously the best analyzation I have seen yet. Comparing the number "coincidences" as you explained, I found that they are indeed the same.

    Although now, I don't think that they can explain all that in the next movie. Or in 3 more for that matter...

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    As confusing as that whole thing was... it still makes the most sense out of anything that i've read about the matrix. Goodjob! Oh, and yes, i'd like to know how in the world did you decipher/figure out/come to realize this... how!??

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    Where do you get this info from? or are you the writer...........

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