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    dam it torrentt
    you are stubborn
    i said it before isrealis are stubborn
    any way
    well, it will make a hell of difference if we come to understanding.
    and those groups you are talking about will have no place when peace take place and we will haunt them down in both sides if they won't stop their militaryacts.
    and we don't want isreal we want the occupied lands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAM View Post
    dam it torrentt
    you are stubborn
    i said it before isrealis are stubborn
    any way
    well, it will make a hell of difference if we come to understanding.
    and those groups you are talking about will have no place when peace take place and we will haunt them down in both sides if they won't stop their militaryacts.
    and we don't want isreal we want the occupied lands.
    mean while the only one who hunts them down is israel.
    u have your police. but its hard when u'r government is a terror group.

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    SAM, you must realize that there will be greater resistance if muslim fucks keep bombing everyone.

    I'm sure there are Israelis that just wanna wipe Palestinians the fuck out. There would be more sympathy if folks were peaceful about it.

    I doubt blacks in America would have made inroads if we all decided to "kill whitey" en masse. It would've made those whites that felt our plight go along with the racist white fucks.
    Last edited by Busyman™; 08-08-2007 at 02:38 PM.

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    @torrentt
    we all hunting down terrorist groups but me and you have a different definition for terrorism while you consider anyone raises a gun against your occupation troops is terrorist ,i consider them a legal resistance.
    and to don't get me wrong osama ben laden is terrorist no doubt but not all islamic groups out there are terrorist
    and I'm from Egypt and by country is ruled by an elected government not a group of terror .
    from your words it seems you don't want to give peace chance only because you think it won't do you any good
    man , every time Palestine and isreal gad a truth ; isreal went a bomb a town or cut electricity or put people in jail or cut water or deprive people from going to Aqsa mosque for praying or do all this stuff to gather and when Palestine responded they call them terrorists
    SO WE BACK IN THIS CIRCLE AGAIN AND AGAIN.

    @bussyman
    i like your talk man
    but you know that resistance against occupation is legal under all human and international law.
    i guess this resistance doesn't use flowers it uses guns
    and take the French resistance against the Nazis or the American resistance against British occupation .
    we didn't call those terrorists.
    occupation is illegal and isreal is one who occupied the Palestine lands they should get out from occupied lands first .
    it's international law and it's human rights if isreal has a problem after that with any group it can go to UN security council like it did when it lost her battle against hezb allah
    but i guess isreal doesn't obey international law till it lost the battle.
    i feel sorry that isreali people don't want to see the truth .
    i feel sorry they rejected the hand that offer peace and want to complete this blood shed to the end
    ..........................................................

    you can talk now as you like isrealis say whatever you say or do whatever you like but don't forget
    maybe the price of peace is high but the price of war you cann't afford

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    Take out all politician, give all the people food and work, give the children education and a Playstation (or wii/xbox) and there will be peace....

    simple as that.
    Everyone that is not a politician is sick and tired of the fightings the suicide bombings the continous destruction of whatever good that is built up by hardworking simple orinairy people. There is no parent that wants his child to be a suicide killer. But the everyones i'm talking about aren't pulling the political strings. As it isn't in the whole world.....
    Every religion is about the good of people, be good to eachother, live in peace and be happy. Every religion is against killing. Parents wants the best for their children. They don't care about Jew, Moslim, Christian. They just want to raise their children healthy and in peace!

    The people of Libanon were building up their country, it started to be a good place to live. People were stopping to think about war, occupation of land, religious strugles.
    That was not in the interest of Hamas and Fatah. Who were fighting about the power. That fight causes a civilian war that threw the country 10 years back in time.
    Simply because it went to well in that country. A happy teenager won't give his live for 'the' cause. So make the children unhappy again and they will do that. A civilian that has a good life won't donate to a militatnt party like Hamas. So rob him of his future and he will defend 'the cause'. He will pay for his 'protection' against the evil (Israel).

    It's all about politics, who has the power! Not about religion... that's just the excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SAM View Post
    @torrentt
    we all hunting down terrorist groups but me and you have a different definition for terrorism while you consider anyone raises a gun against your occupation troops is terrorist ,i consider them a legal resistance.
    and to don't get me wrong osama ben laden is terrorist no doubt but not all islamic groups out there are terrorist
    and I'm from Egypt and by country is ruled by an elected government not a group of terror .
    from your words it seems you don't want to give peace chance only because you think it won't do you any good
    man , every time Palestine and isreal gad a truth ; isreal went a bomb a town or cut electricity or put people in jail or cut water or deprive people from going to Aqsa mosque for praying or do all this stuff to gather and when Palestine responded they call them terrorists
    SO WE BACK IN THIS CIRCLE AGAIN AND AGAIN.
    we all hunting down terrorist groups but me and you have a different definition for terrorism while you consider anyone raises a gun against your occupation troops is terrorist ,i consider them a legal resistance.
    and to don't get me wrong osama ben laden is terrorist no doubt but not all islamic groups out there are terrorist
    and I'm from Egypt and by country is ruled by an elected government not a group of terror
    well, i was talking about the palestinians not egypt
    anyway, its pretty simple to define a terrorist:
    if u go inside other country will one goal- to kill as many as civilians as possible before u'r stopped, your a terrorist.
    if u planned such an attack, u'r a toerrorist.
    if u helped launching it in any form, that means you assist to commit a terror attack - u need to be punished as well.
    if u go and shoot a soldier and you find yourself dead, don't be surprised.
    same about sending your kid to do it.
    if u'r launching rockets each day into israel, u'r a terrorist also.
    i don't think its realy hard to define who is a terrorist. but as i understood u disagree.


    from your words it seems you don't want to give peace chance only because you think it won't do you any good
    man , every time Palestine and isreal gad a truth ; isreal went a bomb a town or cut electricity or put people in jail or cut water or deprive people from going to Aqsa mosque for praying or do all this stuff to gather and when Palestine responded they call them terrorists
    SO WE BACK IN THIS CIRCLE AGAIN AND AGAIN.
    well, after all i said above is done, israel can cut the electriciy it gives the pelestinians, and cut the water it gives to them as well.
    and about bombing a town, which is a lie cos we don't bomb towns, we hunt leaders of terror groups and if they travle by car we bomb them.
    if u have a better way for doing it u may do so, but u'r actually supports them
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    Quote Originally Posted by torrentt View Post
    anyway, its pretty simple to define a terrorist
    Someone's Terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
    It's just the perspective your willing to see.

    Americans kill citizens in Iraq... are they terrorists?
    Same as the UN troops in Afghanistan?

    It's not that easy as you say to define terrorist.
    In WWII there was an underground resitance against Hitler's Germans. As they were the ruling party (chosen or not) resistance with use of weapons was by your definitions a terrorist deed.

    That's something i don't dare to say against my granddad

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetje View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by torrentt View Post
    anyway, its pretty simple to define a terrorist
    Someone's Terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
    It's just the perspective your willing to see.

    Americans kill citizens in Iraq... are they terrorists?
    Same as the UN troops in Afghanistan?

    It's not that easy as you say to define terrorist.
    In WWII there was an underground resitance against Hitler's Germans. As they were the ruling party (chosen or not) resistance with use of weapons was by your definitions a terrorist deed.

    That's something i don't dare to say against my granddad
    if u'r goal is to kill as many as citizens as possible then u'r a terrorist

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    Don't be ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torrentt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jetje View Post

    Someone's Terrorist is another man's freedom fighter
    It's just the perspective your willing to see.

    Americans kill citizens in Iraq... are they terrorists?
    Same as the UN troops in Afghanistan?

    It's not that easy as you say to define terrorist.
    In WWII there was an underground resitance against Hitler's Germans. As they were the ruling party (chosen or not) resistance with use of weapons was by your definitions a terrorist deed.

    That's something i don't dare to say against my granddad
    if u'r goal is to kill as many as citizens as possible then u'r a terrorist

    if you had said to spread as many fear as possible i almost could have agreed.

    That's imho the greater goal terrorist have. Spread so much fear that fear alone destabilize a whole nation.

    See the USA, altough freedom is all that's important (O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!) actions against terrorism, like the patriot act made them a lot less free.

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