An Open Letter

[Biggles]

OK......

.......so when we get this sorted out can we then go and bring peace to the Middle East?

[Hairbautt]

I think you need to review the order of events. And the events themselves.

Here's a bit from the original thread and it did seem as tho' Peaty accepted it as a joke:

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Can I vote ? I voted # 4 after a little bit of thought .

JPaul are you aware that you didn't include a 'no' option?

Why that wouldn't be fair , not his style is it .

Here's my first post init:

That is to say the act of PMing is an act of racism (which is ridiculous).

Here's the aftermath of my post and the first sign that you should of said it was a joke (even if it was obvious):

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Why would I do that, he's a racist.

Everyone can see that.

All they have to do is read the racist posts.

Him suggesting that they are "jokes" doesn't actually change that. In fact if anything that makes it worse. That's Bernard Manning talk.

"It can't be racist, it's funny." Is the most specious argument, ever.

Fair enough JP , can you find another example in any of my 8000 plus posts where I can be accused of it . The lounge can count surely but was thinking of more about the forum in general .


Sorry for taking it personal but it bothers me , not something
I take lightly .

Or you could of asked why or something. That message was directed at you.

Now here's where I posted that I felt like a bastard due to the PM he sent me because hey...It bothered me and I figured it should be brought up:

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Apparently I'm a bastard too. I thought this was all just for fun.

/cawks

Now here's where I forwarded the PM from Peat Moss to Rossco and JPaul:

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You made that up yourself, didn't you. If not, link please if you'd be so kind.

And also it doesn't contain the word "bastard", or indeed refer to you.

FFS Hilary I'm beginning to think you're a rabble rouser.

hope that's made up.

I FWDed it since ya'll thought I was joking...

Now here's where you don't know when to stop:

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Oh you're understood all right. You've really upset Peat who obviously thought of you as a mate and was really hurt when you stabbed him in the back. What else would make him PM such a thing to you.

Only another racist would fail to see the racism, whether deliberately or otherwise.

Oh, more facts, over half of people think he's a racist. As an added bonus the rest want new manker to fuck off. It's a win / win.

I know you're joking n'all and I understand the whole harshness of the lounge, which never really bothers me, but Peaty is a friend and if I made a joke and someone took it the wrong way - I'd want to know about it and I figured that I would try to set things right for everyone.

Not sure where the rumors of someone reporting it came from...like I said I fwded the PM to you and Rossco since ya'll seemed so baffled by it. I never asked for an apology... Did Rossco?

Still not sure why Peat took it so seriously either. I only made that one post until after the PM I'm guessing you just pushed him too far and then he just lashed at me 'cause we are friends. Maybe he's being bothered by something else.

Here's a little bit more of you...

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That in fact he hadn't contacted anyone about it other than Hairbautt and that it was Hairbautt forwarding that PM to a mod which caused all the bother.

It was Rossco and you (JPaul) I had forwarded it to.

It's quite possible that Peat saw the joke and had no problem with it.

Did you read Peat Moss's reply in the poll thread? See above (it's the quote in red by Peaty).

It just made me think, wait a minute, who am I apologising to and for what. Everyone confirming that it was an obvious joke - in the lounge, just confirmed that.

To peat, you prick. Forget everyone else. Besides, to my knowledge no one was forcing you to make one anyways Why would you say something so bastard-like?

He may be reading this whole thing and thinking Hairbautt, in addition to stabbing him in the back has now painted him into an embarrassing corner[.]

You're the one who's built, painted and furnished the 'embarrassing corner'. And it's not Peats

Carnage, indeed

The Middle East is next

[JPaul]

Are you mental, at all.

[Hairbautt]

I'm just right about borderline.

[Hairbautt]

Why?

[JPaul]

That post, it's just a bit mental. Must have taken feckin' ages to do.

I take it you've apologised to Peat after having chased him off the board. Well if this is really a PM he sent you.

Originally Posted by peat moss
I'll never post here again , I'm so far from being an asshole . Fuck you too , thanks for all the support as it really surprised me

Seems it's you he's upset with and you are the reason he has decided not to post here any more. Let's hope it's just the Lounge he means and not the whole forum.

I've always thought you may be manker, it seems more likely every day.

[Hairbautt]

I've always thought you may be manker, it seems more likely every day.

Wait...

Don't forget, kids, I'm the nice one

/msn

[MCHeshPants420]

I think you need to review the order of events. And the events themselves.

Here's a bit from the original thread and it did seem as tho' Peaty accepted it as a joke:

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JPaul are you aware that you didn't include a 'no' option?

Why that wouldn't be fair , not his style is it .

Here's my first post init:

That is to say the act of PMing is an act of racism (which is ridiculous).

Here's the aftermath of my post and the first sign that you should of said it was a joke (even if it was obvious):

Spoiler: Show

Why would I do that, he's a racist.

Everyone can see that.

All they have to do is read the racist posts.

Him suggesting that they are "jokes" doesn't actually change that. In fact if anything that makes it worse. That's Bernard Manning talk.

"It can't be racist, it's funny." Is the most specious argument, ever.

Fair enough JP , can you find another example in any of my 8000 plus posts where I can be accused of it . The lounge can count surely but was thinking of more about the forum in general .


Sorry for taking it personal but it bothers me , not something
I take lightly .

Or you could of asked why or something. That message was directed at you.

Now here's where I posted that I felt like a bastard due to the PM he sent me because hey...It bothered me and I figured it should be brought up:

Spoiler: Show

Apparently I'm a bastard too. I thought this was all just for fun.

/cawks

Now here's where I forwarded the PM from Peat Moss to Rossco and JPaul:

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You made that up yourself, didn't you. If not, link please if you'd be so kind.

And also it doesn't contain the word "bastard", or indeed refer to you.

FFS Hilary I'm beginning to think you're a rabble rouser.

hope that's made up.

I FWDed it since ya'll thought I was joking...

Now here's where you don't know when to stop:

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Oh you're understood all right. You've really upset Peat who obviously thought of you as a mate and was really hurt when you stabbed him in the back. What else would make him PM such a thing to you.

Only another racist would fail to see the racism, whether deliberately or otherwise.

Oh, more facts, over half of people think he's a racist. As an added bonus the rest want new manker to fuck off. It's a win / win.

I know you're joking n'all and I understand the whole harshness of the lounge, which never really bothers me, but Peaty is a friend and if I made a joke and someone took it the wrong way - I'd want to know about it and I figured that I would try to set things right for everyone.

Not sure where the rumors of someone reporting it came from...like I said I fwded the PM to you and Rossco since ya'll seemed so baffled by it. I never asked for an apology... Did Rossco?

Still not sure why Peat took it so seriously either. I only made that one post until after the PM I'm guessing you just pushed him too far and then he just lashed at me 'cause we are friends. Maybe he's being bothered by something else.

Here's a little bit more of you...

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That in fact he hadn't contacted anyone about it other than Hairbautt and that it was Hairbautt forwarding that PM to a mod which caused all the bother.

It was Rossco and you (JPaul) I had forwarded it to.

It's quite possible that Peat saw the joke and had no problem with it.

Did you read Peat Moss's reply in the poll thread? See above (it's the quote in red by Peaty).

It just made me think, wait a minute, who am I apologising to and for what. Everyone confirming that it was an obvious joke - in the lounge, just confirmed that.

To peat, you prick. Forget everyone else. Besides, to my knowledge no one was forcing you to make one anyways Why would you say something so bastard-like?

He may be reading this whole thing and thinking Hairbautt, in addition to stabbing him in the back has now painted him into an embarrassing corner[.]

You're the one who's built, painted and furnished the 'embarrassing corner'. And it's not Peats

Carnage, indeed

The Middle East is next

WTF.

[Snee]

FFS, STFU already, Herbert.

The order of events that means anything would be:

*Peat misspelled Abu Dhabi, and said something about weddings that came off a bit wrong, maybe.
*JP made a thread that was an obvious joke.
*Peat seemed to be in on the joke (he's not an idiot).
*You made a post in that thread.
*Peat reacted to something, might have been the thread, might have been your post.
*You felt the need to make a private message peat allegedly sent you public (and the context you posted it in made it seem like he was a crybaby and...)
*Someone from the staff seems to have contacted JP over it, making it sound like there was multiple complaints about it, or his behaviour in general.
*JP apologized because he seems to have thought a great big hurtful misunderstanding existed, involving lots of people. (I'd be annoyed if I was made to believe that as well.)


I think this is stupid enough. And probably embarassing for peat.

Stop this crap until we know what's going on with peat. If he's pissed at you, then it's up to you to apologize. If he's annoyed with JP, then they can discuss this, or not. I wouldn't blame peat if he saw where this was going and went away.

For a bit there I thought peat had gone off the deep end or something, or gone all emo, which really surprised me since I always reckoned he was cool. But all that we really know is that he sent a PM, assuming you didn't make that up.

So just shut it.

[Hairbautt]

Something bothering you?

This is just nuts, why do ya'll twist it for me to be the bad guy.