Riaa Tracking Your Ip?

[FTFakes]

I don't think this will help.

Here in germany for example most people have ADSL and get a new IP at least every 24 hours. The ISP has to log which IP was given to which user at any time. So all that RIAA has to do is log the time when the IP was used and they will get you!!! I'm sure that's absolutly no problem for them.

[balamm]

Originally posted by FTFakes@1 July 2003 - 09:24
The ISP has to log which IP was given to which user at any time. So all that RIAA has to do is log the time when the IP was used

To "which user" or to "which piece of hardware"? I believe your ADSL still uses adapters with MAC addresses.
If you changed each hour, that's 23 more IP's that need to be recorded by them, processed, and passed on to your ISP to be researched.
23 times more work!
Sure it's a job for you too, but the object is to create a bit of havoc.
An ISP that's presented with a nice single IP letter to pass on may do so without much thought.
An ISP that's handed hundreds or thousands of IP's is going to be shelving some of those for at least a little while. It's also summer vacation time for a lot of employees don't forget.
It may not amount to much but the learning curve is always worth it anyway.

[FTFakes]

Originally posted by balamm@1 July 2003 - 11:44
To "which user" or to "which piece of hardware"? I believe your ADSL still uses adapters with MAC addresses.

I have a username and a password to log in to my ISP. I can use this login with every hardware. Even on my friend's computer if he has ADSL. The ISP is authenticating me by this login, not by my MAC address, because the MAC address can change.

And why should RIAA ask for all 24 IP adresses? They have enough data to get your ass if they have caught you once with one IP

It's sad but true...the only way to fool them is to use an anonymous proxy services. And even that is no guarantee. Who knows if they don't log IP's?

[balamm]

That ISP sounds suspiciously similar to A0L ?

The point is, how would they know they had one person and not 24? Unless you left your personalised name or some other signature in the file data.
In the end, that would be up to an ISP to decide, regardless if riaa believes they have you or not.
riaa can only make assumptions based on file similarities and info you give them. Unless of course they actually are getting in to your folders somehow or working from the ISP database and that just wouldn't be acceptable if challenged properly.

Another thought, if challenged to produce the file, could they? Do they have the storage capacity and organisation for all the data to back up their claims or is this all just bits and bytes of files that never are actually shared, "attempted" copyright infringement or "attempted filesharing" you might say.
If I'm accused, I want to fully view the evidence. Not a copy, not a sample, the whole reported share.

"Oh that one , I cancelled that sucker tryin to upload copyrighted material", no share, case closed.

Yes I'm off topic so I'll quit now.

[FTFakes]

I have a ADSL connection from the biggest german ISP which is NOT AOL.

Do you really think it makes a difference if there are 1 or 24 IP's that has to be checked by the ISP if he is forced to hand out your data by a court? And how much time will it take to check 24 IP's? 3-5 minutes? Maybe even less if they have a good database program.

Don't get me wrong. Your tip might really make it a little bit harder for them (at least if you are use the privacy option of KL too), but I'm pretty sure that they can handle this. If they want your ass they will get it!

[ilw]

I like the tip & I'm gonna use it for something completely riaa unrelated, but I agree that since quite a lot of people sign in to their isp, that it isn't going to help your anonymity much. It might give u a little bit of plausible deniability in the event of a court case, but...

[Switeck]

If you're on a router, you could turn off port-forwarding of 1214 (at least of UDP packets) and change your internal LAN to something like 172.x.x.x so you appear to be an AOL user...

(There's also a non-routeable ip range in the 172.x.x.x block which is specially designed to do this...)

[Daecilius]

The RIAA isn't going to do anything. They are just trying to scare you. THEY'RE GONNAH EAT YAH!!!!!

[Garvin8r]

Originally posted by Daecilius@5 July 2003 - 04:28
The RIAA isn't going to do anything. They are just trying to scare you. THEY'RE GONNAH EAT YAH!!!!!

This sounds about right

[sonicbum]

i dont know alot about ip adresses or MACs but, i have broadband and i can change my actual ip adress by going to 'run' and typing 'command'. then i type ipconfig/release. i disconnect my modems power source for about 45min andturn off my computer. turn my computer back on, plug the modem back in and go back to command promt and type 'ipconfig/renew'. i always get a brand new ip address, you can make sure you got a new one by typing 'ipconfig/all' and it displays alot of helpful ip info. im using windows XP if that makes a difference. see if this werks for you. by doing this on a regular basis this would prevent your ip address from appearing multiple times if the RIAA is recording (but i doubt they are) a list of ip addresses over a long period of time. this also stops repeated hacker attacks against your computer, since they are using your ip address to get to you. try it out, it works like a charm.