What Are Usa & Eu Views On Belgium

[0blivion]

Just wondering what the views are,
Belgium got threatend by the US for having a law wich makes it possible to convict leaders of other countries (thus American leaders as well) for crimes against humanity.
and the same happend to the netherlands with it's UN international court.
US has agreements with 43 countries not to extredait americans to a UN court.
They even threatend to retrieve any americans by force if they are put on trial.

Does USA really think it's above the law when it comes to human rights.

[clocker]

Originally posted by 0blivion@1 July 2003 - 07:15


Does USA really think it's above the law when it comes to human rights.

Yes.

[evilbagpuss]

Does USA really think it's above the law when it comes to human rights.

Yes, but if you look at the past 30-40 years of US foreign policy it seems that most US administrations believe they are above the law when it comes to anything.

Chile's September the 11th is a good example.

[echidna]

the USA is the only nation actively trying to prevent the formation of a permanent international criminal court
:: wonder why

[echidna]

Originally posted by clocker+1 July 2003 - 23:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 1 July 2003 - 23:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-0blivion@1 July 2003 - 07:15


Does USA really think it&#39;s above the law when it comes to human rights.

Yes. [/b][/quote]
i love your candid honesty sometimes clocker

[J'Pol]

Re the extradition thing. Just to clarify, the UK will not extradite someone for something which is not recognised as an offence in the UK. e.g. being a member of the Mafia is an offence in Italy. We will not extradite someone to stand trial for it, as it is not an offence here.

It is also extremely unlikely that we will extradite someone for fiscal crime (tho&#39; it is possible if the sums are high enough).

We will also not use investigatory powers in the UK, to assist another country, where the "offence" being committed is not an offence here.

[the_faceman]

Re the extradition thing. Just to clarify, the UK will not extradite someone for something which is not recognised as an offence in the UK. e.g. being a member of the Mafia is an offence in Italy. We will not extradite someone to stand trial for it, as it is not an offence here.

It is also extremely unlikely that we will extradite someone for fiscal crime (tho&#39; it is possible if the sums are high enough).

We will also not use investigatory powers in the UK, to assist another country, where the "offence" being committed is not an offence here.

You truly are as wise as Columbo.



I like the USA, but find some of their policies a touch disturbing, and sometimes its blatantly obvious that the "good" they are doing elsewhere is lining the pockets of those in the position to exploit the situations that arise.

My old geography teacher once told me that even when the unthinkable happens, someone always going to make a lot of money somewhere because of it. It&#39;s pretty true, any kind of disaster (natural or otherwise) or war has an expensive clean-up operation, and someone is all the richer for it.

[0blivion]

In response to JPAUL,
Crimes against humanity is a crime where ever you may be ,even in outer space(read: also UK).
We are not talking about petty crime, but about mass murder.
It is not about what happend in iraq or elsewhere, it&#39;s ABOUT the US undermining international law in it&#39;s own benefit for no apparent good reason.
What is it saying to the world of dictatorships out there, "it&#39;s ok to ignore international treaties because the US does so too" .
How much respect can the rest of the world bring up for an institusion wich is openly being fought by the americans.
And what is America afraid of anyway, that they are going to commit mass genocide in the near future??

[MagicNakor]

No. Certain individuals in the USA are afraid of being tried before such a court.

[j2k4]

Isn&#39;t it a trifle odd the I.C.C., under NATO auspices, is attempting to bill the U.S. &#036;77.5 million dollars as it&#39;s share of the cost for a new &#036;352 million-dollar facility in which to try all the members of the U.S. government and it&#39;s military the I.C.C. has indicted for war-crimes?

Perhaps if we don&#39;t pay the bill, then....