foul language

[unattended]

my point was very clear but i guess no one was paying attention
so i'll make it easy as possible
well- educated people all around the world don't use foul language i mean those how has a faculty degree and graduated from well known universities.

This is absolutely untrue. I know many people with degrees from well-known universities (like myself) who use what you would consider foul language all the time.

The difference being that some people (maybe the well-educated) tend to be better at thinking before they speak and knowing who they may not want to use that language around. But if you get them around a group of friends...all bets are off.

[sear]

That's a bit of a mass generalisation sam. I figure your just stirring the pot so how's this. I declare bullshit. I swear when I feel like it and the situation dictates. According to your formula that makes me poorly educated and;

low level people

How do you explain that I have a masters degree from one of the best universities in Australia (alas no PHD...yet) and an interesting well paying job that thousands of other people are vying for?

Saying fuck once in a while doesn't make someone lower class or worse than anyone else. I can think of lots of people I know who would never swear and don't have the same level of education I do. So do I look down at them for not swearing, of course not. In the same way you shouldn't look down on people who do. Part of being educated is having experience in the real world and out there people swear, get over it.

P.S good thread it's definitely stirred up some debate.

[bigboab]

my point was very clear but i guess no one was paying attention
so i'll make it easy as possible
well- educated people all around the world don't use foul language i mean those how has a faculty degree and graduated from well known universities.
the reason behind that is simple they just feel that by using foul language it will makes them look bad and ruins their image among their environment.
low level people in the other hand heal their demerits and their lack of knowledge by foul language because they have no other thing to protect them and if someone try to correct them they just snap and try to shut him up.
cause they don't wanna hear it .they like it : it suits them and suits where they coming from that's why only people who comes from poor neighborhoods ,people who don't have well education living and surrounding by ignorants are likely to use foul language in daily basis and tries to make it looks good.
not to mention other people who just look at foul language as a good way to express their feelings in some situations.
so high level of education and knowledge the man is the lesser he will use foul words

I can understand your point Sam. Foul language is more abound in poorer areas of society. Possibly because they do not know an adjective to fit the situation. Almost everyone adjusts to their surroundings. Offhand I cannot think of anyone who does not swear. I personally would not swear if I thought I was setting a bad example. Except when I hit my thumb with a hammer. Then I don't care who is present.

When you boil it all down an oath is just another word, albeit uncultivated. A bit like a weed. It is an uncultivated plant. Sorry, I am havering, again.

[j2k4]

Only a moderator knows when the usage of epithets exceeds propriety or the bounds of good taste.

If you transgress, we'll fucking well let you dickheads know.

I was wondering where you had got to...

Must have good lawyers..

Or you spoke up for yourself.

You were wondering where I had got to?

Hmmph.

I am (these days) pretty much limited to a quick peek here and there, forum-wise...work is the watchword.

How's yourself, sir?

[SAM]

maybe you didn't read my ending statement
"so high level of education and knowledge the man is the lesser he will use foul words"
the lesser=they use foul language but not in a daily basis not often not always

[Busyman]

maybe you didn't read my ending statement
"so high level of education and knowledge the man is the lesser he will use foul words"
the lesser=they use foul language but not in a daily basis not often not always

I mostly disagree with that.

The way I can say a more well educated person is less likely to curse is if that person's dictates not cursing and/or that person is trying to show off their vocab.

Other than that I see too many of the well educated bosses curse worse than their underlings. I guess their high positions allow them more leeway.

[Squeamous]

You're totally barking up the wrong tree Sam. I'm pretty well educated but my speech is littered with expletives. It always amuses me when people claim that those who swear do so 'because they don't know any other words'. Actually, those who don't swear have a more limited vocabulary by virtue of the fact that they have ruled out a whole section of the English language.

I do struggle with the hypocrisy of people who defend swearing but say they do so only in certain situations.

[Sextent]

I do struggle with the hypocrisy of people who defend swearing but say they do so only in certain situations.

How is it hypocrisy. People may chose not to swear at work, in front of small children, at church, at semi-formal dinner parties, in a wide range of occasions. By definition they are choosing to allow themselves to swear in other circumstances. How is that hypocrisy.

[j2k4]

I do struggle with the hypocrisy of people who defend swearing but say they do so only in certain situations.

How is it hypocrisy. People may chose not to swear at work, in front of small children, at church, at semi-formal dinner parties, in a wide range of occasions. By definition they are choosing to allow themselves to swear in other circumstances. How is that hypocrisy.

You neglected to forestall a further waste of cyber-ink by failing to mention what it actually is - discrimination - which word has regretfully fallen into disuse owing to the froth of rhetoric over racism, etc.

Ooops...almost forgot...

[Chip Monk]

Indeed, I do discriminate. Good point well made.