The "antitrade" BitESC phenomenon

**stroj** · 08-24-2007, 01:23 PM

Its almost the same, as the account giveaway. Neither trading accounts or giveaway are allowed on most of sites.
When we are talking about rules.

**SpiderPig** · 08-24-2007, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by th0r

so can i create a thread to destroy bcc? is that how this game works?

Try it!

Close thread please..

To all of you naive ignorant people out there.. anti-trading IS bullshit. Non-traders is NOT bullshit. People have their gay signs everywhere announcing they are "retired" or "seen the light" or are "anti-traders," but most of them are not. People who are the genuine non traders are those who usually seem coalesce within the "community," rather than auspicious and noticeable.

There is absolutely no good in joining one of these "anti-trading" sites like Bit-ESC, simply because they are created by former traders who seek to gain rather than to give, in addition to the retarded tactics they use for "recruiting" (publicly). If you are one of the true "non-traders," you should shut the fuck up and give invites to those who deserve it - via PM.

My advice? If you want to go the "right" way, I suggest you not join those anti-trading "crews" or what not, stay sequestered, and find a group of friends who are willing to share invites with you. If you want to go the "wrong" way, then that is your choice. But, as many have stated already, trading deforms the p2p world and it is imminent that it will also destroy it. Share your invites with your friends, not people you don't know about.

P.S BCC is not an anti-trading website. We don't even really have an invites section!
P.P.S Shuvt is busy with his new job.. and he is DPed here, so he rarely visits.

**sokrates** · 08-24-2007, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by stroj

Its almost the same, as the account giveaway. Neither trading accounts or giveaway are allowed on most of sites.
When we are talking about rules.

well you can't expect traders to know the rules of the 40 trackers they are registered on

thx for the explanation Melvinmeow, but i was able to imagine the sense of anti-trading on my own

it's sad to see so many people trading, but in fact it's faster, so it will never stop i think :/
it took myself about 2 years to get to know people i can trust and who trust me^^
but in the end i think it was worth it..
ok i also didn't try too hard to get to know anybody well enough bc i'm paranoid^^

**AugustoP** · 08-24-2007, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

Originally Posted by sokrates

where is the sense in joining such a group anyways?
i already know enough people i can trust^^
btw anti-trading sounds odd to me..

Anti-Trading is basically people who dont TRADE.
They offer accounts for FREE
which is basically what the invites are supposed to be FREE.

Its just wrong to see the many differant types of trading that go on here and elsewhere.

Trading a invite here for an invite there.
Trading a invite here for a BJ.
Trading a invite here for $$$ or other goods.

I've heard about trading some WoW artifact for blowjob but a high-level invite?

**blackbird** · 08-24-2007, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by AugustoP

Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

Anti-Trading is basically people who dont TRADE.
They offer accounts for FREE
which is basically what the invites are supposed to be FREE.

Its just wrong to see the many differant types of trading that go on here and elsewhere.

Trading a invite here for an invite there.
Trading a invite here for a BJ.
Trading a invite here for $$$ or other goods.

I've heard about trading some WoW artifact for blowjob but a high-level invite?

i was confused at that "BJ".. lol now i know

**dr0w** · 08-24-2007, 03:07 PM

nvm

**pECi** · 08-24-2007, 03:24 PM

oh so much drama, intrigue and espionage...no need to watch tv anymore...one could make a best seller out of this

**Ac3Dunk** · 08-24-2007, 04:16 PM

I cant judge abt both grps bc i neva been there, anyway you can see from here a convo between an Admin of **** and a member of BitESC

* guest303 ([email protected]) has joined #help
<guest303> offering help
<guest303> any admin?
<@Schiz0> Yes guest303?
<guest303> can i pm you schiz0?
<@Schiz0> No, just talk to me here. Do you need something?
<guest303> no
<guest303> i can help with many ip\'s and email\'s if they cause any troubles
<guest303> since i run a forum
<@Schiz0> We don\'t need help..We have many resources and dedicated staff for finding traders/cheaters/etc
<guest303> dunno if you have already heard about it or not
<guest303> Bit-ESC
<@Schiz0> Yes, we\'ve headr of it
<@Schiz0> And I\'m a member
<guest303> oh never seen you around buddy

<@Schiz0> I don\'t go on it too often...I\'m busy alot
<guest303> i am sure
<guest303> i would love helping out with traders and cheaters
<guest303> if i can offer my services
<guest303> is JGG around these days?
<guest303> since he was quite active but has seem to disappeared
<guest303> ?
<@Schiz0> Yeah, he\'s been busy too.
<guest303> Sure..

<guest303> always ready to help
* guest303 ([email protected]) Quit (User is banned (Schiz0 says seeya!))
<*****> guest303 wtf u doin messaging peeps
<****> i come home and have messages from him
<@Schiz0> He\'s being banned, that\'s what he\'s doing :-P
<*****> mo-ron
<*****> hes all on about him being in some secret tracker or something
<******> kinda like we are huh

Session Time: Mon Aug 13 00:00:00 2007
<*****> something like that I would suppose
* Sthebig ([email protected]) Quit (Ping timeout)
<@M4rduK> guest303 is Th0r
<@M4rduK> the guy that was on a while back
<@M4rduK> he\'s also pablo escobar - the sysop of bit-esc
<@M4rduK> and the guy that optimistik reported a couple of days ago (search your #help logs for usomani for the full history)
<@M4rduK> just in case anyone wanted to know.

<@M4rduK> BCC and bit-esc are \"anti trading\" groups - apparently they have some sort of rivalry and spend most of their time trying to get members from the other group banned from trackers
<*****> ahh pablo escobar..remember him
<*****> hai M4rduK
<@M4rduK> hai
<@M4rduK> I thought your name was pablo
<guest202> i wanted to contribute to this tracker
<guest202> thats it
<guest202> and get a chance to see it
<guest202> th0r..
<@M4rduK> guest302/guest303/Th0r/usomani/pablo.escobar?
<@M4rduK> *202
<guest202> im guest 202,303
<guest202> pablo is our sysop of the forum
<guest202> usomani is pablo
<guest202> usomani is pablo\'s frnd
<@M4rduK> usomani is 2 people?
<guest202> what do u mean?
<guest202>

<@M4rduK> what do *you* mean??
<@M4rduK> Tue[:13:32] <guest202> usomani is pablo
<@M4rduK> Tue[:13:32] <guest202> usomani is pablo\'s frnd
<@M4rduK> is he pablo or is he pablo\'s friend...?
<guest202> usomani is pablo\'s frnd
<guest202> meant that as correction
<@M4rduK> are you usomani?
<guest202> 2nd sentence
<guest202> im th0r

<@M4rduK> Joins: guest202 ([email protected])
<guest202> yeh usomani set my irc up
<guest202> and i accessed some irc channels using his nick
<@M4rduK> we heard that usomani and pablo were the same person... *shrugs*
<guest202> must be those BCC guys
<@M4rduK> lol yeah
<guest202> who are against our forums
<guest202> without any proof
<guest202> we have solid proof against them
<guest202> one of them was a trader
<@M4rduK> yesyeys
<guest202> and someone was a cheater
<guest202>

<guest202> want me to upload it somewhere for u?
<@M4rduK> to be honest - I\'m completey tired of both BCC and bitesc
<@M4rduK> you both come in here non-stop trying to get the other group in trouble
<@M4rduK> yet almost nobody from either group is actually a member
<@M4rduK> we have a total of 3 members from both groups combined
<guest202> we guys (bit-esc) are just trying to promote the concept of safe community
<@M4rduK> and they all three check out as ok
<guest202> for everyone to share their invites
<guest202> and have fun
<guest202> thats it
<guest202> it was BCC who started acting kiddish
<@M4rduK> that\'s the same thing they say
<@M4rduK> I agree with that though
<@M4rduK> they were the ones that started the reporting
<@M4rduK> here\'s the deal though
<guest202>

<guest202> i never even talk about them
<guest202> they went to every trackers irc
<guest202> and start bullshitting
<@M4rduK> like I said - we only have 3 members TOTAL from BOTH groups combined
<@M4rduK> people from both groups keep coming in here rporting people that are not members
<guest202> i am interested in being an active member in your community
<guest202> if that is possible
<@M4rduK> well, invites are basically shut down at the moment
<guest202> i can wait

[COLOR=\"Red\"]<@M4rduK> and, to be 100% honest, as much as a fucking headache BCC and bitesc[/COLOR] have been to us, it will be hard from anyone from either group to get in now

[COLOR=\"Red\"]<guest202> lol trust me
<guest202> i will never even mention those 2 groups
<guest202> anywhere anytime
<guest202> we never wanted to[/COLOR]
) Quit (Client quit)
<guest202> those BCC guys started it all
<guest202> and we had to defend ourselves
<guest202> we could have done it too
<guest202> but acting mature and with some brain is the point
<guest202> not just going to every tracker u know
<guest202> and bullshitting without any proof
<guest202> and yeh i know the invites are not shut down since one of my frnds recently joined ur tracker last night
<guest202> Tig
* joant waits for the kick/ban button to come in to play
<@M4rduK> I thought your name was pablo
<guest202> i wanted to contribute to this tracker
<guest202> thats it
<guest202> and get a chance to see it
<guest202> th0r..
<@M4rduK> guest302/guest303/Th0r/usomani/pablo.escobar?
<@M4rduK> *202
<guest202> im guest 202,303
<guest202> pablo is our sysop of the forum
<guest202> usomani is pablo
<guest202> usomani is pablo\'s frnd
<@M4rduK> usomani is 2 people?
<guest202> what do u mean?
<guest202>

<@M4rduK> what do *you* mean??
<@M4rduK> Tue[:13:32] <guest202> usomani is pablo
<@M4rduK> Tue[:13:32] <guest202> usomani is pablo\'s frnd
<@M4rduK> is he pablo or is he pablo\'s friend...?
<guest202> usomani is pablo\'s frnd
<guest202> meant that as correction
<@M4rduK> are you usomani?
<guest202> 2nd sentence
<guest202> im th0r

<@M4rduK> Joins: guest202 ([email protected])
<guest202> yeh usomani set my irc up
<guest202> and i accessed some irc channels using his nick
<@M4rduK> we heard that usomani and pablo were the same person... *shrugs*
<guest202> must be those BCC guys
<@M4rduK> lol yeah
<guest202> who are against our forums
<guest202> without any proof
<guest202> we have solid proof against them
<guest202> one of them was a trader
<@M4rduK> yesyeys
<guest202> and someone was a cheater
<guest202>

<guest202> want me to upload it somewhere for u?
<@M4rduK> to be honest - I\'m completey tired of both BCC and bitesc
<@M4rduK> you both come in here non-stop trying to get the other group in trouble
<@M4rduK> yet almost nobody from either group is actually a member
<@M4rduK> we have a total of 3 members from both groups combined
<guest202> we guys (bit-esc) are just trying to promote the concept of safe community
<@M4rduK> and they all three check out as ok
<guest202> for everyone to share their invites
<guest202> and have fun
<guest202> thats it
<guest202> it was BCC who started acting kiddish
<@M4rduK> that\'s the same thing they say
<@M4rduK> I agree with that though
<@M4rduK> they were the ones that started the reporting
<@M4rduK> here\'s the deal though
<guest202>

<guest202> i never even talk about them
<guest202> they went to every trackers irc
<guest202> and start bullshitting
<@M4rduK> like I said - we only have 3 members TOTAL from BOTH groups combined
<@M4rduK> [COLOR=\"Red\"]people from both groups keep coming in here rporting people that are not members[/COLOR]
<guest202> i am interested in being an active member in your community
<guest202> if that is possible
<@M4rduK> well, invites are basically shut down at the moment
<guest202> i can wait

<@M4rduK> and, to be 100% honest, as much as a fucking headache BCC and bitesc have been to us, it will be hard from anyone from either group to get in now
<guest202> lol trust me
<guest202> i will never even mention those 2 groups
<guest202> anywhere anytime
<guest202> we never wanted to
Quit (Client quit)
<guest202> those BCC guys started it all
<guest202> and we had to defend ourselves
<guest202> we could have done it too
<guest202> but acting mature and with some brain is the point
<guest202> not just going to every tracker u know
<guest202> and bullshitting without any proof
<guest202> and yeh i know the invites are not shut down since one of my frnds recently joined ur tracker last night
<guest202> Ti
* ***** waits for the kick/ban button to come in to play
<*****> lol
* ~wwwolf remembers the trench run from star wars
<~wwwolf> \"stay on target.... stay on target...\"
<guest202>

<******> 2 for the price of one
<guest202> just lemme hear from m4rduk pls
<joant> fancy shooting your friend down too
<guest202> as in?
<*****> there are no invites guest202 -_-
<****> rule no one
<@M4rduK> who the fuck invited Ti in??
<@M4rduK> he was bugging me on other sites to hget in
<@M4rduK> damnit...
<@M4rduK> I bet he won\'t be here for long...
<guest202> hmmm..
<guest202> why do yu say so?
<~wwwolf> street fighter?
<guest202> he\'s doing as far as i can see
<guest202>

<guest202> doing good**
<@M4rduK> Tue[:13:42] * wwwolf remembers the trench run from star wars
<@M4rduK> Tue[:13:42] <wwwolf> \"stay on target.... stay on target...\"
<@M4rduK> LOL
<~wwwolf> M4rduK... street fighter time?
<@M4rduK> ..?
* guest202 ([email protected]) Quit (User is permanently banned (Haiyuken!))
<@M4rduK> LOL
<*****> Haiyuken!)Haiyuken!)Haiyuken!)Haiyuken!)Haiyuken!)
<@M4rduK> oh man
<*****> SONIC BOOM!!!!!!!
<@M4rduK> I am so fucking sick of those guys

/Me Hides .....
No more pain
No more drama

**znik** · 08-24-2007, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by TCD004

Originally Posted by jeter

Anyone want to join a "real"anti-trading crew pm me guys.

LOL Are you joking now ? One member just mentiod here (he wasn't talking about Bit-Esc), that for one AntiTrading crew you need high level tracker invite to join... He was speaking about your crew !!! So rather please stop spamming with your crew, or i will ask him to post here the proofs, how you are asking him for ScT and FTN invite as a entering ticket to your "real" crew...

It seems that there is another recruitment program in progress, and I hope that the founders of this club were not inspired by Pablo.

What frightens me most is that they are also requesting high-leveled account proofs in order to be accepted.

We are talking about the "RTU", that is runningtheunderground.
I have already a very interesting report about the founder Jeter by a member who seems to know him veeery well...
Anyone else knows Jetter or Slick99?

I wouldn't like to start another thread about the "RTU phenomenon" this time