Euthanasia

[Illuminati]

Originally posted by clocker+6 July 2003 - 16:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (clocker @ 6 July 2003 - 16:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-billyfridge@5 July 2003 - 16:54
i do believe in
euthanasia, provided a panel of responsible people were to to weigh the pro&#39;s&nbsp;
and cons. and members of the bleeding hearts brigade were kept out.

This attitude seems like fencesitting of the most advanced order.

I saw some similar replies in the (now regrettably locked) abortion thread.

Either topic seems to me to be a highly personal decision.
Either you believe that a person has the right to make that decision or they don&#39;t.

In both cases- I do.

Leave the committees, panels, other &#39;responsible&#39; people out of it. [/b][/quote]
Ditto - The choice of euthanasia should only be given to the person who the choice is about.

Maybe I&#39;m being harsh, but I seriously question the interests of those who have nothing to do with a terminal person yet feel that they have a duty to be fully against the choice.

[Neil__]

I think the only person to decide this issue is someone who is dying.
So I have to leave it up to them and as that means some people will chose to commit suicide then I am in faviour of if it being made legal.

The dilema to me is how do you administer control over the process.

Neil.

Edit grammar

[j2k4]

For it, but I believe those who "help" (a`la Kevorkian) should not be doctors. Train people, create a new "profession", whatever, but observe the Hypocratic Oath (First, do no harm...); the medical profession doesn&#39;t need to compromise it&#39;s integrity on this specific issue-they&#39;ve got enough other "image" problems.

[Neil__]

For it, but I believe those who "help" (a`la Kevorkian) should not be doctors. Train people, create a new "profession", whatever, but observe the Hypocratic Oath (First, do no harm...); the medical profession doesn&#39;t need to compromise it&#39;s integrity on this specific issue-they&#39;ve got enough other "image" problems.

[/QUOTE][QUOTE]

Exactly "Do no harm" does also include "Quality of life"

I have made my decision
If i need to chose to die I will. even if I have to go abroad.

But I still stand by my decision about legality even though im biased.

Even if it is a brand new Proffesion ans long as it doesn&#39;t becom an industry
Make the laws in advance then?
I want the right to chose the means of my death.
If I have to.
And that&#39;s all.
nothing more.

Neil.

edit P.S. can I have a "unplug me" clause in my will.

[Neil__]

Originally posted by Illuminati+6 July 2003 - 16:14--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Illuminati @ 6 July 2003 - 16:14)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by clocker@6 July 2003 - 16:08
<!--QuoteBegin-billyfridge

@5 July 2003 - 16:54
i do believe in
euthanasia, provided a panel of responsible people were to to weigh the pro&#39;s
and cons. and members of the bleeding hearts brigade were kept out.

This attitude seems like fencesitting of the most advanced order.

I saw some similar replies in the (now regrettably locked) abortion thread.

Either topic seems to me to be a highly personal decision.
Either you believe that a person has the right to make that decision or they don&#39;t.

In both cases- I do.

Leave the committees, panels, other &#39;responsible&#39; people out of it.

Ditto - The choice of euthanasia should only be given to the person who the choice is about.

Maybe I&#39;m being harsh, but I seriously question the interests of those who have nothing to do with a terminal person yet feel that they have a duty to be fully against the choice. [/b][/quote]
Let alone being terminally ill themselves.

Neil

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Neil__@6 July 2003 - 14:50
edit P.S. can I have a "unplug me" clause in my will.

That wouldn&#39;t do much good, Neil.

You can have such a wish honored should you become incapacitated; there are various mechanisms for achieving this wish.

Regretfully, I think to make any of them stick, you&#39;d need to consult a lawyer.

[Neil__]

Originally posted by j2k4+6 July 2003 - 21:00--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 6 July 2003 - 21:00)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Neil__@6 July 2003 - 14:50
edit P.S. can I have a "unplug me" clause in my will.

That wouldn&#39;t do much good, Neil.

You can have such wish honored should you become incapacitated; there are various mechanisms for achieving this wish.

Regretfully, I think to make any of them stick, you&#39;d need to consult a lawyer. [/b][/quote]
Dont get me wrong I only ask for a coppout clause because thats my right.
my country has the right to ask me if I am prepared to die for it and I will make my decision if needed.
but if I have the right to die for my country.
why cant I have the right to die if I chose.

Neil.

[Wolverine]

I agree with Neil. IMO I believe that I have the right to my own life, and for anyone to tell me that I don&#39;t...well, tough

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Neil__+6 July 2003 - 15:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Neil__ &#064; 6 July 2003 - 15:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by j2k4@6 July 2003 - 21:00
<!--QuoteBegin-Neil__

@6 July 2003 - 14:50
edit P.S. can I have a "unplug me" clause in my will.

That wouldn&#39;t do much good, Neil.

You can have such wish honored should you become incapacitated; there are various mechanisms for achieving this wish.

Regretfully, I think to make any of them stick, you&#39;d need to consult a lawyer.

Dont get me wrong I only ask for a coppout clause because thats my right.
my country has the right to ask me if I am prepared to die for it and I will make my decision if needed.
but if I have the right to die for my country.
why cant I have the right to die if I chose.

Neil.[/b][/quote]
Neil-

An "unplug me" clause would do you no good if it were in your will, you see?

If you&#39;re dead enough to need a will, you&#39;re too dead to require unplugging.

[Neil__]

Then look at it like a prenup but for wills
read that bit when the shit happens and read the rest when my plugs have been pulled.

Neil