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Indeed it would be to late.Originally posted by j2k4@7 July 2003 - 00:43
Neil-
An "unplug me" clause would do you no good if it were in your will, you see?
If you're dead enough to need a will, you're too dead to require unplugging.
Your wish to emigrate to the Netherlands would solve all your problems.
You could be euthanised within a month of arriving.
Simple Bystander
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Neil-Originally posted by j2k4+7 July 2003 - 01:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (j2k4 @ 7 July 2003 - 01:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Originally posted by Neil__@6 July 2003 - 15:09
Originally posted by j2k4@6 July 2003 - 21:00
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edit P.S. can I have a "unplug me" clause in my will.
That wouldn't do much good, Neil.
You can have such wish honored should you become incapacitated; there are various mechanisms for achieving this wish.
Regretfully, I think to make any of them stick, you'd need to consult a lawyer.
Dont get me wrong I only ask for a coppout clause because thats my right.
my country has the right to ask me if I am prepared to die for it and I will make my decision if needed.
but if I have the right to die for my country.
why cant I have the right to die if I chose.
Neil.
An "unplug me" clause would do you no good if it were in your will, you see?
If you're dead enough to need a will, you're too dead to require unplugging. [/b][/quote]
Not sure about in the US, but in the UK there's something known as a 'living will'. These contain what you want happening to you should you become incapacitated - Most obvious example is medical treatment.
Of course you have to do this with your GP and/or lawyer (can't remember which)
en(un)lightened
The "living will" exists here also.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
In, I believe Switserland, there is a clinic for assisted suicide. There doesn't need to be any medical necessity. Is it wrong to want to opt out?
>H
I'm all for it, but the one thing i think that needs to be discussed is the state of mind that a person is in when choosing to die. I'm having a little trouble expressing what i want to say, but basically I think its important to consider the fact that someone who is in pain may become mentally unbalanced and make a rash decision. I am pretty much against automatic permission for euthanasia for specific medical problems, I would instead make reasonably extensive counselling/psychiatric evaluation a requirement (except in cases where this would be impossible)
On the Peripheral
There is, however, the cases of terminal illness, where the person in question could easily be of sound mind for a number of years. Various forms of cancer, HIV/AIDS, and Alzhiemer's come to mind right off. The latter puts the family and friends of the afflicted through terrible anguish; I cannot imagine what it would be like for one so afflicted.
things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
so, he does
the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
-- WW2 for the l33t
>H
True, with the illnesses mentioned above there would be nothing medically causing mental instability, but I was pointing out that just because theres nothing 'going wrong' in their brain doesn't mean they are sound of mind. People may have trouble coming to terms with these illnesses and IMO should be required to spend some time discussing their situation with somebody who is capable of understanding and counselling them before they are legally allowed to commit suicide.
n00b
if i was completely retarded, id wanna die
nothing against em, but i wouldnt want to be a burden
en(un)lightened
Dave-you sound so pessimistic! Cheer up.Originally posted by TheDave@8 July 2003 - 04:15
if i was completely retarded, id wanna die
nothing against em, but i wouldnt want to be a burden
I think consideration ought to be given the fact euthanasia is not (aside from the possibility of nefarious intent) a movement with the potential to be so "popular" as to become "out of control"; it would be self-regulating in that respect, yes?
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
If you were that retarded then would you notice.Originally posted by TheDave@8 July 2003 - 10:15
if i was completely retarded, id wanna die
nothing against em, but i wouldnt want to be a burden
J2k4
I doubt the human race will rush to death like lemmings
but if it does then self regulation is already here.
I have the right to take my life now.
Why wait for the Beaurocrats we only need them for "getting help to die".
Neil
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