124 Reasons

[j2k4]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+13 January 2004 - 13:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC &#064; 13 January 2004 - 13:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@13 January 2004 - 08:08
Sorry if my quibble was too nuanced for you to digest. [/color][/i]

how could i not have inferred that your accusation toward 1234 carried a hostility that stands regardless of the mislaid blame for the aforementioned bumpage? well, at least you&#39;ve more than filled my daily quota for instruction in nuance... i&#39;ll have to balance that out by viewing videos of people being kicked in the groin. [/b][/quote]
Wrong again.

I harbor no ill-will toward 1234, or leftism, for that matter.

Once I realized who they were, my animus left me.

You, on the other hand......

Feel free to call me when next you run low on nuance.

I can address the problem and you&#39;ll never even notice.

[vidcc]

Originally posted by j2k4@13 January 2004 - 18:41

Besides, I certainly don&#39;t type as much as you or the others do.

so you do just copy an paste

[j2k4]

Originally posted by vidcc+13 January 2004 - 14:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (vidcc @ 13 January 2004 - 14:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@13 January 2004 - 18:41

Besides, I certainly don&#39;t type as much as you or the others do.

so you do just copy an paste [/b][/quote]
No.

Very rarely, actually, as I have found that it usually causes me more problems than I need.

After months and months of no C&P, I do it twice in succession, and what do I get for my trouble?

1234 and lefty.

What a deal, huh?

I think I shall stick to my own guns, thank you.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by j2k4@13 January 2004 - 19:47
Wrong again.

I harbor no ill-will toward 1234, or leftism, for that matter.

Once I realized who they were, my animus left me.

What do you mean?
Who "are" they?

[vidcc]

Originally posted by Busyman+13 January 2004 - 20:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 13 January 2004 - 20:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@13 January 2004 - 19:47
Wrong again.

I harbor no ill-will toward 1234, or leftism, for that matter.

Once I realized who they were, my animus left me.

What do you mean?
Who "are" they? [/b][/quote]
1234 is the sponser of sesame street a name that helps kids to count

[3RA1N1AC]

Originally posted by j2k4@13 January 2004 - 10:47
my animus left me.

you should have that checked out by a latin physician.

[j2k4]

Originally posted by Busyman+13 January 2004 - 16:01--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Busyman @ 13 January 2004 - 16:01)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@13 January 2004 - 19:47
Wrong again.

I harbor no ill-will toward 1234, or leftism, for that matter.

Once I realized who they were, my animus left me.

What do you mean?
Who "are" they? [/b][/quote]
"They" are veterans of the board who have chosen the cloak of new identities.

They come around once in a while; reminiscent of the 17-year locusts-I&#39;m sure you are familiar with them, being in D.C.?

[j2k4]

Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+13 January 2004 - 20:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 13 January 2004 - 20:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-j2k4@13 January 2004 - 10:47
my animus left me.

you should have that checked out by a latin physician. [/b][/quote]
Yes, I could-

But I will not.

I like the feeling of peace.

[1234]

Once again, not accurate.

What is not accurate? You state that nationalisation brings about the stated ill effects. I am showing you that you are talking rubbish, with a real life example in the UK NHS. Just retract your statements before you sound even more uninformed than you actually appear to be.

My point is that a National Health Care system in the U.S. would, as a matter of habit and practice, be afflicted with a bureaucracy similar to those extant.

So you are retracting the other statements you made and just focusing on the 85% figure now? Ok, fine with me.

Please show us (and this is the third or fourth time I have asked) proof of this 85% figure in service providers within the US. Note, service providers such as welfare and health.

I would ask you to provide us with the details of how the U.K. handles the bureaucratic problems inherent in this situation; indeed, what it spends on it&#39;s NHS, and what percentage of same goes to the attending bureaucracy?

Here is a link with details of the NHS budget. Links from this page will take you to more detail than you could ever want if that page is not enough.

It states - Most of the £53.4bn pot for England goes on revenue expenditure, covering day to day running costs such as staff pay and drugs. The remainder is allocated to capital expenditure, used to purchase new equipment and buildings. Around 75% of the revenue funding is channelled to primary care trusts, which in addition to overseeing GP activities are responsible for commissioning hospital services.

Can you not answer this simple question?

That was never the point, it was about you proving what you had claimed - and have still yet to prove. But as a courtesy, there you go - my case is proven. Can yours be sometime?

For you to be, as you say, "showing me" you would have to provide details you have not so far.

As a result, you are telling me; you are showing me nothing.

Once again, you made the initial claim with no evidence (and have yet to present any) and yet you berate me for not giving figures? I was waiting on you to provide even a single piece of evidence before presenting mine, to avoid dignifying your claims with more work than they merited. However, I have provided the evidence now so eagerly await you to do the same.

I have no problem saying the U.S. is incapable of "doing it".

I sincerely wish that were not the case, but as you mistakenly believe me to be afflicted with terminal jingoism, you have overlooked the possibility that I could be dissatisfied with my own government.

Ah I see, you are one of those apathetic people who (as long as they are comfortable) don&#39;t really care about their fellow citizens or their welfare. Why are you not incredibly angry about the millions of people in your country who are dying and living in pain due to your lack of a national health care system? Other nations similar to the US can do it fine, yet you are happy to sit back and say "Oh well".

So you are left of everyone, huh? That&#39;s too bad.

Left of everyone? If you mean left of the US Democrat&#39;s yep. Tony Blair&#39;s party is left of the US Democrats too, as are most of Europe&#39;s govts. Are you calling all of us the looney left and Comrade Citizen? Your parochialism is humourous.

BTW-I wouldn&#39;t even mention it if it was someone else, but Clinton was from Arkansas (as shown graphically, and repeatedly, elsewhere in this very thread), not Alabama.

Sorry I should have guessed you would not understand references to things such as the Good Ol&#39; Boys or the Blind Boys of Alabama. My apologies

No, I promised you I wouldn&#39;t do that.

Because there is no evidence to support your claim? Oh well, you can&#39;t win &#39;em all. Or even one in your case.

Are you trying to co-opt my words? Shame on you.

Just asking you a question. Most of your posts are full of questions for me rather than actual points, but I can&#39;t ask a question?

No, I&#39;m afraid you&#39;ll have to take my word for it.

Finally, you admit that you pulled those numbers out of your *** and have no way of proving them. Why didn&#39;t you do that pages ago? Would have saved much embarrassment on your part.

1234 (or &#33;@#&#036;, as I refer to him in private) used as entree here a post of mine from July, I think, no matter who bumped the thread.

The thread was listed 2nd or 3rd on the board so I opened it and read it. Didn&#39;t even notice the dates till a few hours later. Don&#39;t blame me for necro posting this one, I just replied to it&#39;s content.

1234 is the sponser of sesame street&nbsp; a name that helps kids to count&nbsp;

I try to be helpful

Though actually it was due to the band I was listening to at the time I needed to ask a quick question on the tech boards. Bonus points available to who knows who that band could have been.

"They" are veterans of the board who have chosen the cloak of new identities.

Nope, I have only ever posted under this name on this board. Check my registered date for this name - are you saying I planned almost a year ago to tackle your ignorance now? Please, leave your delusions of importance at the door. I neither know nor care about you. You just happen to be the person posting unsubstantiated drivel on the board when I am in a posting mood. I reply to the Theresa fanboy the same way I reply to you.

[j2k4]

Delusions of importance?

Nah.

I am your humble servant.

Why do your take offense at my notice of your proud claim of being "left" of any American political party?

It would seem you believe you alone enjoy the sunshine of true enlightenment; I have a different opinion.

You, by virtue of your remarks, denigrate the U.S. and it&#39;s political system, then claim immunity from anyone who would question your motivation.

I haven&#39;t made remark one about the political systems of any European country.

You, on the other hand, can&#39;t make enough about mine, or the U.S.

You suffer the intolerance and tyranny of your extremism, and attempt to visit same on others who disagree with you, and you seem to have fixated on me.

While I am flattered by your obsessive behavior, I would not anticipate a dinner invitation.

BTW-Please attend to your ignorance as to correct use of the "QUOTE" function.

You have no excuse for this, as everyone here has the same one, and your pretension precludes your reliance on the sham of it "not working".