Ranking system?

**Skiz** · 10-03-2007, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

Again if it was really me you would feel like more of a bitch sting about it then you already do currently.

I feel a bitch sting?

Originally Posted by bitch stinger

]Anyways back on topic if you want your ass handing back to you AGAIN. admin@...... is my msn info.

As soon as I give a fuck, I'll get right on that.

Back to the ratings!

**Chewie** · 10-03-2007, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Patriot foreve

Traders who you talk shit about now chewie are the ones who made this community so popular ,They are the ones who helped thousands of members to get into alot of trackers through their giveaways ,They are the ones who did almost all the available reviews on all the trackers which helped thousands to get to know and learn about various trackers ,spending time helping and assisting others and now you are asking to go elsewhere ,what avery ungrateful manner from a previous mod

Don't kid yourself that FST would fall on its arse if hardcore traders left.
You talk about them as if they're the only ones helping other members and giveaways (and you're ludicrously wide of the mark, there!) but we can all see that they're not and you'd be a fool to suggest it.
What I'm suggesting, is that perhaps you should all trot back to the VTG if you don't like the way things are going in this section.

Should I be grateful for the way BT Staffers view FST Staff because of the hardcore trading here, then?
Should I be grateful for the multitude of lost hours tracking down multiple account holders, issuing infractions, deleting childish squabbles and spam for no reward other than bitching and accusation?
I stepped down because of all that. Why did you?

Originally Posted by Polarbear

how often do i read in trades:

have: blablabla
want: anything above level 6

how stupid is this? people do not even ask for a tracker, the just ask for rarity ranks...

...i recently asked somebody who wanted an invite from me what he knows about the content of the tracker. he answered me: "not much, but it's rarity level 7, dude. i really need to have it"

Those of us that don't talk in WIAW levels can see these requests for what they are: a direct result of the WIAW thread.

Originally Posted by Melvinmeow

Also on the comment by chewie about me... I didnt make that post...

I don't mention anyone in my earlier comment, Melvin.
I don't know who posted it and I don't care; it doesn't matter. The fact remains that someone did.
I didn't even look up the post IP, let alone search the db for other appearances of it.

TBH I could have provided SS proof for all users that I PMed CRs about but after hours of checking for dupe accounts by cross-referenceing post IPs/times and the need to remove details from victims' SS proof, I really couldn't be arsed but would have provided it if anyone asked... which no-one did.
Actually, I did wonder whether CRs might be too trusting of me.

**DefX** · 10-03-2007, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Chewie

Should I be grateful for the multitude of lost hours tracking down multiple account holders, issuing infractions, deleting childish squabbles and spam for no reward other than bitching and accusation?

It is indeed a thankless job. If that's the reason you stepped down, then I dont blame you. There are specific complaints in this thread alone how some of the mods here are a tad complacent. I say reward me with a 6 figure salary and ill be happy to be on standby for this forum 24/7

**Patriot foreve** · 10-04-2007, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by Chewie

Don't kid yourself that FST would fall on its arse if hardcore traders left.
You talk about them as if they're the only ones helping other members and giveaways (and you're ludicrously wide of the mark, there!) but we can all see that they're not and you'd be a fool to suggest it.
What I'm suggesting, is that perhaps you should all trot back to the VTG if you don't like the way things are going in this section.

Should I be grateful for the way BT Staffers view FST Staff because of the hardcore trading here, then?
Should I be grateful for the multitude of lost hours tracking down multiple account holders, issuing infractions, deleting childish squabbles and spam for no reward other than bitching and accusation?
I stepped down because of all that. Why did you?

I am not really bothering myself of why did u (stepdown) since i don't really care besides i am sure you know the reasons better than me anyway

Secondly:If your not grateful to hundreds of members here who have been aiding thousands in here making alot of popularity for this place then you are the one who shouldn't be here

If you don't see the fact that 85% of giveaways in FST have been performed by traders then you need better glasses

If i don't like the way things going on ,i will simply declare that because i am not selling my soul for bunch of invites or accs to some famous trackers ,i have recieved all the help from traders here when i first got here ,i have seen alot of giveaways made by hundreds of traders here ,i have seen hundreds of traders offering assistance here to alot who wanted it ,i have seen alot of traders co-operating to make massive invites handing out to those who need

and ofc i am not saying that all traders all saints ,There are bad apples in any place either among Traders or non-Traders or in any place but alot of these traders have been giving alot to this place mr.ungrateful

The one who really need to troll is you because your the ungrateful one ,i am that some groups will pick u up if u want

as for btstaffers i am sure FST staff have been trying hard to reach to a common ground which helps both to understand eachother ,also when the staff member of the tracker is nice and helpful and tries to explain his view in aproper manner you will notice that alot will listen to him ,i can give you asimple example with Norbits where you can simply notice that Vidde have earned respect from alot of Traders before Non-Traders for his maturity in dealing with matters regarding his tracker

as for what you call lost hours for deleting posts and giving infractions then why did you take the moderator position if you can't handle it ,i can't really see how can someone complain from what is suppossed to be his duties which he voluntered for it

**rvt** · 10-04-2007, 12:36 AM

Yep, all bow before the mighty traders!

When you wonder why your account is banned because you logged in from your mates house, thank the traders.
When you wonder why trackers have a list of every IP you ever used, thank the traders.
When you wonder why some sites will ban you for changing your email, thank the traders.
When you wonder why whole invite trees disappear overnight, thank the traders.

If it wasn't for your precious traders, a lot of staffers would be here running the giveaways themselves.
Having such a prolific trader and rule breaker as yourself representing FST really reduced the chances of staffers getting involved. Since you've stepped down, I allowed revolt invites in a giveaway and I've just given 2 bmtv invites to FST members in the past 10 minutes. While you were a mod, I wouldn't have bothered.

Traders are not saviours, they are the enemy of private trackers. In the constant battle between the 2 sides, it's the users who lose out. I'm pretty sure most/all sysops did not invest time and money into creating sites just to screw users over. Traders on the other hand will screw anyone to get what they want.

**G-Force** · 10-04-2007, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by rvt

Yep, all bow before the mighty traders!

When you wonder why your account is banned because you logged in from your mates house, thank the traders.
When you wonder why trackers have a list of every IP you ever used........................

Well Said!

**DefX** · 10-04-2007, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by Patriot foreve

as for what you call lost hours for deleting posts and giving infractions then why did you take the moderator position if you can't handle it ,i can't really see how can someone complain from what is suppossed to be his duties which he voluntered for it

As much as I despise airing out dirty laundry in public, I just cant help taking issue with this. And I'm not even part of this squabble!

Patriot, in my unbiased opinion and months of being a staffer here, you should be the last person to chastise another staffer's ability/tolerance to deal with the garbage that we deal with here everyday as well as the other moderator tasks. You were extremely valuable with the WIAW thread, i'll give you that. But when it came to enforcing rules and dealing with the loads of reports we're bombarded everyday, given your participation record in this area, its hypocritical to attack Chewie, who in my eyes was a valuable enforcer.