God's Eye

[Mr JP Fugley]

I think the title and the first post, the whole point of the thread, may have started the whole "God" motif.

[Squeamous]

Well it's descended into a bollocks motif now.

[Mr JP Fugley]

What's interesting is that quantum physics tells us that by observing events we influence them and that the normal order of cause and effect is not a strict rule. We are now starting to observe the very beginings of the Universe so it's possible that we are also influencing it.

That's utter bollocks! What we're observing is light that's taken billions of years to get to us...how can that influence things that happened billions of years ago?

Actually you're right. What a lot of shite.

How the fuck could I let these people drag me into their madness.

Thanks for the head's up mate.

[Squeamous]

lmfao!

[Mr JP Fugley]

Well it's descended into a bollocks motif now.

Again true. You are the voice of reason in a World run mad.

[kaffeine]

Oh and the rest of this utter tosh you've wandered off into is .... mmmmm I'll leave it there.

very good point. well explained also.

Well it's descended into a bollocks motif now.

+1.. this is complete BS. thank god someone gave some sense into this!

[manicgeek]

You're idea of omnipresence appears to suggest that He is physically present everywhere. That would mean that He was everything, there's no getting round that. It's a logical extension of your own argument

However as has already been explained that is only the case if He is corporeal by nature. If He is not then he can be omnipresent whilst taking up no space whatsoever.

I say again, these are fairly basic concepts. I think it may be best if you actually read what other people post, rather than base your replies on your own preconceptions of what they may be saying.

What a load of bollocks, how does being present everywhere imply being everything... basic concepts my arse, you're waffling.

Omnipresence as in "the ability to be present in every place at any, and/or every, time"

See and Wiki is never wrong

[Mr JP Fugley]

Omnipresent doesn't mean "the ability to be present in every place at any, and/or every, time". It means being present everywhere at the same time.

As such if something is physically omnipresent then it is everything.

I say again there's no way round that.

[manicgeek]

As such if something is physically omnipresent then it is everything.

I can't help but wonder if you're working on the premise that because everything is matter, that matter must be omnipresent, and that therefore omnipresence is everything... which is not what the word omnipresent means.

So according to your wonderful theory the passage of time (which by any means of measurement is omnipresent) is everything, are you sure that you really want to argue that ?

[weenden]

made my wish the same one i always wish and in 3000 years its still not come true