donate and you shall receive

[Polarbear]

what is really getting on my nerves it not the fact, that some sites offer value in return for money.
nobody can be blamed for making an offer. it's always the buyer's free will to accept the deal and the conditions or not.
i'm pretty sure that almost every cent they make is for the benefit of the tracker and the community.

but i strongly disagree with the common abuse of the term "donation" when it comes to p2l

it is NOT a donation if you offer something in return. no matter what. there is no donationware or "donate and you will get..."

it is a sale!

calling it a donation is an insult to all users who donate on sites where they get nothing but the good feeling of having contributed.

let me repeat this again. i'm not saying that it's wrong to have p2l.

but please don't be hypocritical and give it a name:
it is selling value for the common good of the users and the community. call it charity sale if you like.

but it's most definitely not a donation

[tuning]

You are right....the trackers are commercializing....especially ScT...

[tuning]

You are right....the trackers are commercializing....especially ScT...

[dragos]

you like creating flame-threads Polarbear ?

[aysomc]

i thought they called it donations because site like this could get in trouble if they were given money for anything other than a "donation". we all know they're selling UL credit or vip or something for the money but im pretty sure its much safer legally to just call it all a "donation".

[nihility]

you can choose to not get anythign in return apart from teh gold star

[Polarbear]

you like creating flame-threads Polarbear ?

i really think you didn't get my point

[dragos]

you like creating flame-threads Polarbear ?

i really think you didn't get my point

of course i got it, but is there a reason i'm saying for today's and yesterday's threads? Apart from FTN and ScT supporters flaming each other? In other places this thread would be a good ideea , although useless discution cuz it won't change anything. But here everyone wants to show how smart they are compared to others so it always results to flame.

[fook3d]

Some truth, But not all donations are free from personal gain, However big or small.

Take the local pet shelter for example, Although they would be a registered charity, They do take donations and in return you get some little badge and a "letter from a dog" every X months.

Although the above is not the same topic, The donation is setup the same way. Sure, You can say you dont want the badge and letter etc, But, Back onto this subject, if you wrote to the owner of the tracker and said you wanted to donate money but didnt want the perks, Im almost certain you would be able to, So that does make it a donation if they accept that way, As you no longer have to take the "freebies"

[Polarbear]

i really think you didn't get my point

of course i got it, but is there a reason i'm saying for today's and yesterday's threads? Apart from FTN and ScT supporters flaming each other? In other places this thread would be a good ideea , although useless discution cuz it won't change anything. But here everyone wants to show how smart they are compared to others so it always results to flame.

that's not my fault. i didn't mention any tracker name in my topic. i was objectiv. so don't blame me for creating flame wars. want i wanted was a general discussion.
if you think this is not possible on this forum, maybe there shouldn't be controvercial threads at all.