donate and you shall receive

[dragos]

speaking of "donations" ,check out the new paypal system setup on filezone.

NEW! Now you can buy upload using PayPal!
Step 1. Click the PayPal logo and follow the instructions.
Step 2. After the payment was confirmed, send a PM to ***** with the transaction details.
Step 3. Wait for the profile to be actualized with the new upload quantity.
Thank You!


20€- 200GB Upload + VIP 2 luni/months
30€- 300GB Upload + VIP 3 luni/months
40€- 400GB Upload + VIP 4 luni/months
50€- 500GB Upload + VIP 5 luni/months
etc..

aren't they in a giving mood now. That tracker solely exists to get money to sysops. There were some some arguments from some users in the past that they limit upload speeds from the server so that more people "have " to donate cuz they can't keep a ratio. Last days a few more threads like that apeared so maybe they do limit it , who knows. They even modified the donate.php link to "buyupload.php" Let's go "donate" 100$ and get 1 TB upload

[Polarbear]

speaking of "donations" ,check out the new paypal system setup on filezone.

NEW! Now you can buy upload using PayPal!
Step 1. Click the PayPal logo and follow the instructions.
Step 2. After the payment was confirmed, send a PM to ***** with the transaction details.
Step 3. Wait for the profile to be actualized with the new upload quantity.
Thank You!


20€- 200GB Upload + VIP 2 luni/months
30€- 300GB Upload + VIP 3 luni/months
40€- 400GB Upload + VIP 4 luni/months
50€- 500GB Upload + VIP 5 luni/months
etc..

aren't they in a giving mood now. That tracker solely exists to get money to sysops. There were some some arguments from some users in the past that they limit upload speeds from the server so that more people "have " to donate cuz they can't keep a ratio. Last days a few more threads like that apeared so maybe they do limit it , who knows. They even modified the donate.php link to "buyupload.php" Let's go "donate" 100$ and get 1 TB upload

again, this is honest. they're selling upload. wether it is right or wrong, or how users will react is another thing.

but at least i know what's going on and they don't wrongly call it donations.

It is a donation. You're not paying for gigs/invites any more than people who attend political fundraising events are paying $500 for a plate of food.

wrong. under legal and tax aspects they actually buy this plate of food.

i was refering to value in my first post. a t-shirt that you get for donating for the red cross doesn't have a significant value. you might want to compare it to getting a star on a tracker.

an invite to a top level tracker sure does have a value. otherwise there wouldn't be thousands of post in the invite section

[Brandon]

YO, WHat Up "B"

Hey sexy lady

[Roark]

It is a donation. You're not paying for gigs/invites any more than people who attend political fundraising events are paying $500 for a plate of food.

wrong. under legal and tax aspects they actually buy this plate of food.

My whole point was that there are more meanings of donation than just it's legal and tax definitions. Those people are not paying $500 for food, they're paying to contribute to their favorite candidate. Likewise with tracker donations. "Donation" is the most accurate description of what's going on.

Nothing we do is legal, why bring up legality now?

[Polarbear]

Nothing we do is legal, why bring up legality now?

yeah, you are right. talking about legal aspects isn't advisable in the bt world



whatever - i think we should finish the discussion here. let's keep an eye on the development in the future.

p2l - donations - buy upload

we'll see and everyone has the free will to decide

[Brandon]

My whole point was that there are more meanings of donation than just it's legal and tax definitions. Those people are not paying $500 for food, they're paying to contribute to their favorite candidate. Likewise with tracker donations. "Donation" is the most accurate description of what's going on.

Nothing we do is legal, why bring up legality now?

Accurate would be to allow both purchasing and donating.
Purchase GB link
Send a donatin link
Re-read my other post As stated already, when you are obtaining an item in return, it's still a purchase.

I'll put it into more detail for you. When you exchange money for goods, you just made a transaction aka purchase. On p2l sites you have the option to either donate, or to donate and get extra. That means, you have the option to either donate, or purchase. Both are there, just one is under a false name based on the activity being done.

[Polarbear]

I'll put it into more detail for you. When you exchange money for goods, you just made a transaction aka purchase. On p2l sites you have the option to either donate, or to donate and get extra. That means, you have the option to either donate, or purchase. Both are there, just one is under a false name based on the activity being done.

thank you brandon. i'm happy that someone with experience like you described exactly my point.

[Brandon]

I'll put it into more detail for you. When you exchange money for goods, you just made a transaction aka purchase. On p2l sites you have the option to either donate, or to donate and get extra. That means, you have the option to either donate, or purchase. Both are there, just one is under a false name based on the activity being done.

thank you brandon. i'm happy that someone with experience like you described exactly my point.

I knew this education thing would be good for something
You're quote is messed up btw

[Zeus]

Of course it's a sale. I suspect many sites continue to call it a donation because they don't want to acknowledge how commercialised the whole thing has become.

[Roark]

My whole point was that there are more meanings of donation than just it's legal and tax definitions. Those people are not paying $500 for food, they're paying to contribute to their favorite candidate. Likewise with tracker donations. "Donation" is the most accurate description of what's going on.

Nothing we do is legal, why bring up legality now?

Accurate would be to allow both purchasing and donating.
Purchase GB link
Send a donatin link
Re-read my other post As stated already, when you are obtaining an item in return, it's still a purchase.

I'll put it into more detail for you. When you exchange money for goods, you just made a transaction aka purchase. On p2l sites you have the option to either donate, or to donate and get extra. That means, you have the option to either donate, or purchase. Both are there, just one is under a false name based on the activity being done.

This is a false dichotomy. You can donate to the United Way and not get a tshirt, or donate to the United Way and get a tshirt. No fair minded person would call the latter a purchase. The IRS certainly doesn't; the money you donate is considered a donation as long as the United Way meets its 501c obligations. Similarly, people who donate to your tracker are not buying an arrow next to their name. Again, this is a subjective, not an objective matter, as trackers are obviously not legal entities. But were a tracker a non-profit, all donations would be considered such regardless of the reward given.

Let's take a step back and be realistic for a second - 10 euros on sct for example gives you 10 gigs (and this is the minimum you must donate to get any reward). Is anyone really donating because they think this is a great deal on pirated material? And if they are, I would liken their stupidity to one who gives $100 to the United Way to purchase their tshirt.