Uk Intelligence.

[hobbes]

Originally posted by denis123+24 July 2003 - 09:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (denis123 @ 24 July 2003 - 09:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-hobbes@24 July 2003 - 08:25
bullshit specualtion.

I refer you to my earlier post. [/b][/quote]
I am attacking no one. Denis, what point are you trying to make. Was Bush a coward?

"Hearts of the people" is an irrelevant platitude and why NYC has a mayor.

Bush had bigger fish to fry. The whole thing started with Ratfaced calling Bush "thick and a coward". I think I have defended this point well.

I have since learned to spell it..."speculation".

[hobbes]

Ilw,

What is your point?

Did Bush act rashly or appropriately in response to 9/11?

I fail to see how nuclear strikes would need to be planned. We have the weapons, and the target is in range.

The identification of the nationality of the hijackers far precededed their common link to Al Queda.

Remember, the reason for my post was simply to object to Ratfaced, who claimed that Bush was a stupid coward. I am not a Bush fan, but I was affronted by this unnecessary and unjustified attack on the man.

[ilw]

Yeah nuclear strikes were given as the exception to the rule about needing long term military planning, but as i stated these were out of the question. I&#39;m not really arguing whether Bush acted correctly or incorrectly, in my view there wasn&#39;t really much of a decision to make at that point in time. There were very few options open to him, essentially it was more a case of as someone else said:

i think there are a lot of systemic pressures that are too great for the individual to overcome

I was basically arguing that he couldnt have taken the path u suggested even if he were stupid and cowardly like Rat Faced suggested. (i&#39;m arguing that ur comments don&#39;t really disprove Rat Faced&#39;s comment, but IMO the comment was unjustified and would be very hard to disprove)

[Neil__]

I second Rat Faced

Bush is Stupid and Cowardly.

The statement starting this topic proves that.

Also is he handing the next election to Hilary Clinton?
or ANYONE else for that matter.

Neil

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Neil__@24 July 2003 - 12:17




Also is he handing the next election to Hilary Clinton?


Neil

Hello Neil, long time no see(read)&#33;

Well I hope so&#33; I do hope she stands for Office- as long as she does&#39;t behave like lets say, Golda Meir, Ghandhi or Thatcher&#33;&#33; That would shake them up in the Whitehouse.

See you round the forum

Nigel

[Neil__]

Originally posted by nigel123@24 July 2003 - 13:27
Hello Neil, long time no see(read)&#33;

Well I hope so&#33; I do hope she stands for Office- as long as she does&#39;t behave like lets say, Golda Meir, Ghandhi or Thatcher&#33;&#33; That would shake them up in the Whitehouse.

See you round the forum

Nigel

Hello Nigel,

I hevent been on much this week. Good to be back.

Will Bill be known as the First Gentleman?
or doesn&#39;t that term exist?

And please don&#39;t scare me with thoughts of the second comming of Thatcherism.
I don&#39;t think my mind would want to cope.

Neil

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Neil__@24 July 2003 - 12:38

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Will Bill be known as the First Gentleman?
or doesn&#39;t that term exist?

Maybe apprentice First Gentelman&#33;

That would leave them with a problem......,

[Neil__]

Originally posted by nigel123@24 July 2003 - 13:59
Maybe apprentice First Gentelman&#33;

That would leave them with a problem......,

Aww. Poor Bill.

Neil.

[myfiles3000]

Originally posted by denis123@24 July 2003 - 08:50
USA has evacuated its airforce bases in S. Arabia or is in the process of evacuating. I wonder what the long term plans of the USA are.

judging by the article below, the long-term plans of the us are to employ ever-more technological solutions to avoid things like compromise, consensus and cooperation in an interdependant world. in this case, hypersonic aircraft will allow the US to take all its marbles home and not have to depend on foreign-soil airbases.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid...fense&printer=1

[thewizeard]

I have just read it, at the end of the article some one says "And I think its all very exciting." I think its all very terrifying&#33;&#33;

In any case I presume that USA is not going to attack Saudia Arabia.