Don't Give Up On Vista

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Does it have built-in drivers for m-audio firewire soundcards, like?

what model card is that ?

Linux actually supports far more hardware than windows. The problem is the latest and greatest hardware is rarely released with Linux drivers so it takes a while for the community to produce them, test them and fix the bugs.

hopefully all this is starting to change since Dell, HP and other manufacturers are shipping Linux pre installed with machines. If your hardware does not have reliable Linux drivers these days you are going to miss out on millions of potential sales.

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FREE

Your a fucking cawk...fekk off

Stop blathering on about linux...It's good, but XP is way better at the moment if you want functionality (I use all those free apps you mentioned on windows) And 4 thousand other things run too...Why don't you go back to sucking cawk and trading invites you scum.

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Linux actually supports far more hardware than windows.

I'm afraid you will have to provide some evidence of that, or I will have to suggest you are talking out of your arse.

Not saying you're wrong or anything. However my own searches for linux drivers have led me to the opinion that there is a dearth or them. Whereas it seems untenable to suggest that very many hardware manufacturers would produce equipment without a Windows driver.

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linux doesnt support msn or yahoo webcams . that sucks

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Linux actually supports far more hardware than windows.

I'm afraid you will have to provide some evidence of that, or I will have to suggest you are talking out of your arse.

A fresh Ubuntu install recognizes all of my hardware save the X-fi soundcard.
If I default to the onboard AC97 sound, Ubuntu will pick that up automatically.
I can't deny that I find that impressive.

Creative makes a Linux driver but only for 64-bit OS so I'd have to reinstall to try it.
Not to mention figure out how a driver gets installed in Ubuntu...no clue, ATM.

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Myths, Lies, and Truths about the Linux kernel

Im currently showing a few of my sisters how to use open office, pidgin and amarok. so far they have had no problems. granted i spent about 2 hours getting the machine to a state that they could just login an everything works.

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Supporting more "out of the box" is not the same as there being more linux drivers available for a wider range of hardware. Even if that is true.

Windows does not need to provide a specific driver for every piece of hardware because the manufacturer already does that. Always. Since they designed and built the hardware their engineers are the best people to write the driver to make it work.

The problem I have with linux is that if it doesn't allow me access to the internet then I can't even go looking for the drivers I need.

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I would consider not being able to access the internet through wi-fi a complete show stopper for you trying out Linux. It was the same for me quite a while ago, i installed suse 8.0 only to find that my 56k modem was not support.

Like i said before this problem is slowly correcting itself where manufacturers are being forced to produce their own drivers for Linux or open up their specs so the community can make them or face missing out on an ever increasing market.

Vista has had a very similar problem where they have made changes that have broken old drivers. lots of manufacturers cant be arsed to spend the money to write new drivers for older hardware since they are not gonna see any return.

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although Ubuntu may be different somewhat but the look and the feel is complete rip off the windows, unlike mac which is a totally different type, i used the latest version of ubuntu i found no different on how it explorers and portrait, this alone shows the willingnesses of using windows among computer users so they made something same but different in infrastructure .

And FSTrulz pls stop saying its free, we here at FST anyway dont pay for any software to use atleast not for windows, so it doesn't make any different whether ubuntu is free or not.
and stop saying about drivers being installed instantly on linux, did at any time a standard hardware didnt response on windows, i have quite a lot of USB/external and internal hardwares and non of them ever gave me any problem with installing on vista not to mention XP.
unless you use all chines HW which have no windows support whom btw dont last long you wont have problem with drivers on windows.
graphics and audio drivers come with both OS's by default but their not much a use on both so anyway you must get manufacturer's driver which in linux case is a non official driver.

software range which linux has is nothing compare to windows not to mention gaming which is almost zero, and please dont talk of work around to install windows stuff on linux, we use computer so it do our work not we do its.
simplicity is something which modern OS's are offering more and more and linux is creating more and more workarounds.

security is one thing ubuntu users may be proud of it, well people not using linux much is what make it safe and out of hackers radar, its not worth the time to waste and not getting to newspapers headlines.
personally i think staying away from unnecessary sites and p2p application is enough to protect yourself.

Edit:
i forgot about vista...
am using it since the release and so far i have no problem, may be some minor application crash but this is always the case with new versions, not only windows but any software, it takes some time till they are fixed, my guess would be SP1, apart from that there is no issue.
its not much a resources hogger if you have atleast a 2Gb ram(600 or 800), and imo if some1 in today cant have that much ram then its a waste to have a computer. i have 2gb and what vista uses with all function on and lots of background application and addons(StarDoc) running it uses 800Mb of my ram.

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I agree with pretty much everything BawA said there.

Apart from him saying fstrulz is a cunt. I think he's just a bit zealous in his proselytizing.