View Poll Results: BT - What do you think ? Will BT die ?

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  • In 20 years

    13 4.23%
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  1. #41
    Gish's Avatar Seeda from Hell BT Rep: +14BT Rep +14BT Rep +14
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    I have a feeling BT will in the future become like Kazaa dangerous to use and crawling with RIAA
    cunt bags.

  2. BitTorrent   -   #42
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    Everything dies, my son.




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  3. BitTorrent   -   #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by orfik View Post
    Everything dies, my son.
    Yeah what's with the majority voting "Never". Do you guys think bittorrent is that secure? Maybe it's just an unserious response to an unserious option and I'm just being serious about it.
    Last edited by Ænima; 12-07-2007 at 04:15 AM. Reason: emphasis

  4. BitTorrent   -   #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    Bittorrent only hurts the ISPs via enormous bandwidth usage. There is no advantage for them, even if you're looking at total profits through a customer base....
    i don't think this is correct. file sharers are the primary cause of technological advances in residential broadband, which ISP's are able to charge premiums for. it is precisely because of the bandwidth usage of BT that ISP's love it. if not for BT, the average home user would still have a 1/256 or something and would have no reason to upgrade. prices would inevitably have to fall and there would be WAY less demand for faster connections. some demand would obviously still exist, but it would be limited to the small number of users that are YouTube addicted or download lots from online media stores. the question is not "would you disconnect your internet" it's "would you have a 10mbit pipe and pay $50/mo. for it?"

    ISP's are undoubtedly on our side in this.

  5. BitTorrent   -   #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by koolyt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    Bittorrent only hurts the ISPs via enormous bandwidth usage. There is no advantage for them, even if you're looking at total profits through a customer base....
    i don't think this is correct. file sharers are the primary cause of technological advances in residential broadband, which ISP's are able to charge premiums for. it is precisely because of the bandwidth usage of BT that ISP's love it. if not for BT, the average home user would still have a 1/256 or something and would have no reason to upgrade. prices would inevitably have to fall and there would be WAY less demand for faster connections. some demand would obviously still exist, but it would be limited to the small number of users that are YouTube addicted or download lots from online media stores. the question is not "would you disconnect your internet" it's "would you have a 10mbit pipe and pay $50/mo. for it?"

    ISP's are undoubtedly on our side in this.
    You forget to acknowledge that BT is only one way of sharing files, and that an overwhelming majority of BT protocol usage has been used to coordinate piracy. With the law enforcement hammering at their backs, the ISPs are not on the BT-users side.

    The fact that the bittorrent protocol partially responsible for the users' interest in large bandwidths is obviously superseded by the threat of the law enforcement.

  6. BitTorrent   -   #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by koolyt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Skizo View Post
    Bittorrent only hurts the ISPs via enormous bandwidth usage. There is no advantage for them, even if you're looking at total profits through a customer base....
    i don't think this is correct. file sharers are the primary cause of technological advances in residential broadband, which ISP's are able to charge premiums for. it is precisely because of the bandwidth usage of BT that ISP's love it. if not for BT, the average home user would still have a 1/256 or something and would have no reason to upgrade. prices would inevitably have to fall and there would be WAY less demand for faster connections. some demand would obviously still exist, but it would be limited to the small number of users that are YouTube addicted or download lots from online media stores. the question is not "would you disconnect your internet" it's "would you have a 10mbit pipe and pay $50/mo. for it?"

    ISP's are undoubtedly on our side in this.
    Also, you can't seriously believe BT usage is a real factor in increased bandwidth service. Do you think the average home user uses BT regularly, if they've even heard of it? Commercial ISPs offer scaled bandwidth packages for the same reason the supermarket sells peanut butter in three different sizes: people are stupid and will pay for something they won't use if they think they're getting a deal. That a minority benefit is not only secondary, it's undesirable. They're with the RIAA because there's no profit in everyone using exactly what they're buying.




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  7. BitTorrent   -   #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ænima View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by koolyt View Post

    i don't think this is correct. file sharers are the primary cause of technological advances in residential broadband, which ISP's are able to charge premiums for. it is precisely because of the bandwidth usage of BT that ISP's love it. if not for BT, the average home user would still have a 1/256 or something and would have no reason to upgrade. prices would inevitably have to fall and there would be WAY less demand for faster connections. some demand would obviously still exist, but it would be limited to the small number of users that are YouTube addicted or download lots from online media stores. the question is not "would you disconnect your internet" it's "would you have a 10mbit pipe and pay $50/mo. for it?"

    ISP's are undoubtedly on our side in this.
    You forget to acknowledge that BT is only one way of sharing files, and that an overwhelming majority of BT protocol usage has been used to coordinate piracy. With the law enforcement hammering at their backs, the ISPs are not on the BT-users side.

    The fact that the bittorrent protocol partially responsible for the users' interest in large bandwidths is obviously superseded by the threat of the law enforcement.
    I believe ISPs are overjoyed by BitTorrent users that wil gladly pay 5 times the amount for a faster line. They are just afraid to show it... ad then there are companies like Comcast that take advantage of it and that way save money on linerental.

    Think about this in a regular business sense. Wouldn't you like it if a large part of your costumers bought 5 of each instead of 1?

    As for BitTorrent survival, I would guess that in 5 years it's obsolete and replaced by other methods. Maybe built on the principal but it won't be BitTorrent as we know it today.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFoX View Post
    In the old days, if you misbehaved on a tracker, you got disabled, or worse, IP banned.

    Nowadays, there are more trackers than there are members, so if your tracker misbehaves, they get bookmark removed, or worse, URL deleted.

  8. BitTorrent   -   #48
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    This poll makes BitTorrent cry..
    Last edited by iNSOMNiA; 12-08-2007 at 07:16 AM.

    The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.

  9. BitTorrent   -   #49
    Give it 5.

  10. BitTorrent   -   #50
    It will be superseded... someday.

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