Why is everyone against traders?

[Submission]

Simple answer - tracker rules forbid account trading, some allow invite trading.

Respect the tracker, respect your inviter, the person who invited YOU to the tracker, not some joe down the road 2 months later because you don't like nor care for the tracker anymore, if you do not want it due to it not meeting your needs anymore (or as many say here "I have a better tracker" - like define better?? - higher up the ranking thread you mean?), then let it expire in accordance with the tracker rules, it is rude, damned rude, to pass that tracker on to someone else, especially someone who the inviter may have a severe dislike to anyway and wouldn't have given him an invite if he was the last person on earth!

How about I invited you to a tracker, and 2 months later dropped you a PM to see how you were getting on:

"Hi John, how are you, how are you liking the tracker so far, good isn't it?"

The reply:

"Wtf are you, my name is is not John and gtf out of my inbox and leave me alone while I buffer this account to hand it over to someone else for something bigger & better on that rankings list"

I think I would be rather pissed off with that, wouldn't you??

oh noes!! im devastated!!

[Luthair]

I dont trade at all, Mostly due to the sites asking people not to :-\ I dont want a ban from a site.

[aysomc]

most people here have summed it up nicely. i thought the guy who said the people who dont trade do it because they dont have anything was rather funny.

[cocalait]

Mate if I throw a party and there's room for 200 people and I invite you, it's not nice from you to talk to the first person you cross on the street and tell him "I got this invite for XXX party, give me 10 bucks and you are in" Because of the fact that I invited YOU not someone you want. (and the matter of inviting an stranger is worse). bye

ps : definitely my english sucks

[Tagentx]

If anyone here was truly worried about the welfare of a tracker, why would you participate in forums like this. Half of the trackers I have, I never heard of till I read about it at a forum just like this one. You guys with your "its against the rules" , "respect the tracker". Lmao wtf!!! Stop bitching here and go to the tracker that you so treasure and participate in their forums and stop advertising to the world every detail of every tracker on the internet.

[RealitY]

So if I'm going to become a "second class citizen" just because I traded and I'm never going to be respected / participate in really good giveaways, I'm not even going to try and bother to do anything good here. I'm just going to trade, get what I need, and log out.

Not sure why but had to quote this.

Bullshit...first off they're not giveaway points they are rep points. which means they in practice have little to do with giveaways and much more to do with whether you're a "trusted trader" or not.

They were changed to BT Rep since most rep comes from giveaways and not from trades so this isnt accurate.

Some trader probably traded with an agent giving them access to the site to gather information.

Lets not go there.

Now we're at the next stage where people go around with a "first make friends then ask for level X" sort of thing

These things change and as time goes on things balance themselves.

FST itself has hidden group for hardcore traders. Meanwhile they do also have hidden group for extreme anti-trader.

The intent is to create a balance.

But then i suppose everyone has FREE WILL and right to SPEAK WHATEVER THEY WANT

Well generally at FST this true.

The ONLY reason trading should be discouraged is because the site does not allow it. IF the site allows it (there are plenty who do) then go for it!

This is rather straight forward isnt it.

Im personally not against it, but i certainly do not like it .. since most trackers don't allow their invites/ accounts to be traded. I'm just respecting the tracker and their policies, thats all.

If your referring to invites might be argued most dont have issue what you do with them. If a tracker has invites and gives them to you perhaps they should trust what you do with them. If they dont then perhaps they shouldnt have them.

Most trackers give invites as reward for ratios and similar and are well aware enough of their members will trade them. To some of the tracker staff this isnt an issue as it grows the site which is why they have invites to begin with...

[Ænima]

Trading should be held as moral and honest when without scammers because of the implication of trading invites value-for-value.

To be against traders is to be against the free market.

[Polarbear]

i sometimes find it very amusing, when traders realize, that they reached the end of their blind alley.
they tried so hard, got scammed, banned and broke every tracker's rule just to find out that they won't get into the tracker they want by trading.

that must be so frustrating.


so here's a message to all newcomers who read this thread:

-wanna get into the greatest and best sites in the whole bittorrent world?
-wanna be a member of sites that every stupid trader dreams about?

here's the solution:

don't trade!

even those trackers and communities you think are impossible to get in are looking for good and trustworthy new members all the time.

if you trade and break rules you will never get there - never!

[Artemis]

I thought I would leave this thread after my earlier posts but here is a perfect example of what I was explaining helpfully colored in red to highlight it, how exactly did tracker invites become a commodity to be traded in a 'free market' ?

That is truly pathetic......

Trading should be held as moral and honest when without scammers because of the implication of trading invites value-for-value.

To be against traders is to be against the free market.

[blackbird]

dont trade . its against the tracker rules , simple as that .. just follow the rules , consider that as a way to say "thank you" to the trackers that let you download stuff for free