Why is everyone against traders?

[SiNa]

dont trade . its against the tracker rules , simple as that .. just follow the rules , consider that as a way to say "thank you" to the trackers that let you download stuff for free

well actually we should say thank you to the uploaders (or the scene) as well as the tracker, but the uploaders are giving us the free stuff

[kyrcer]

When I don't need acc because of not use I give it sb who want for free so is this trade ?

[kyrcer]

When I don't need acc because of not use I give it sb who want for free so is this trade ?

[Cheeseman1208]

I thought I would leave this thread after my earlier posts but here is a perfect example of what I was explaining helpfully colored in red to highlight it, how exactly did tracker invites become a commodity to be traded in a 'free market' ?

That is truly pathetic......

Trading should be held as moral and honest when without scammers because of the implication of trading invites value-for-value.

To be against traders is to be against the free market.

Lol.....

So you think torrent sites are commodities that are bought, sold, and traded on a free market?

[bikernin]

When I don't need acc because of not use I give it sb who want for free so is this trade ?

why dont u just delete your account. or let it be disabled because of inactivity. these days even if you give away an account to someone its will get disabled anyway. why risk getting your inviter into trouble?

[mrnobody]

Trading should be held as moral and honest when without scammers because of the implication of trading invites value-for-value.

To be against traders is to be against the free market.

When you sign up for a tracker, you tick the checkbox saying “I agree with rules and agreement” and one of the rule is not to trade invite/account (for most of the tracker)

1o I don't see ANY morality in breaking rules of something you are feeding upon.

2o And honesty? Tracker give you invite to invite people, not to trade 'em.

When you say "free market" You realize that you are comparing internet to real life? And...you realize it's not really free because tracker staff are chasing after you?

And if you are to pull that out into “real” world it’s like trading cocaine and guns illegally. Okay, i hyped it a bit

[bikernin]

wow this thread is really raging like a fire. i really dont see the point. i seriously doubt if any traders are gonna stop trading or any anti-traders are gonna become traders. everybody is gonna stay the same, but only be more bitter with each other. i have my own set of views but i rather not add fuel to the fire. it would be really wise to close this thread.
besides no one here has their lives depending on torrents

[carpediemm]

Nobody like traders cause invites are meant to be free and in the end, all account will be disabled.

[kaffeine]

People take the "level" of trackers way too literally, and it really gets ridiculous, to the point of threads in the invite sections where the OP says something like "I have level 4, I need any level 5" wtf is this?!

These "levels" have given trackers some kind of (fake) value, and people think they're in the stock market in here, signing up on "lower levels", buffering them so they gain some value, then trade for the next level and repeat the process... it's sad really.

People forget that these are communities. You can find almost every file everywhere, so why are people trading to get these "high level" trackers? just so they can put a new nice little user bar in their sig, and feel above others (again, just sad).

They don't care for the community (and that's obvious, since they will be using the account of another person, which is extremely bizarre if you're interested in participating in a community), and they continue the stock market game breaking trackers' rules.

Invites are meant to be given for free, to someone you trust and consider will be an asset to the community where you're already a member. Traders just don't care about that, they think about invites and accounts as pokemon cards, to collect and feel special.. they compromise the security of trackers.

(oh, and for those who say that every non-trader is against trading because they don't have anything to trade, or they traded in the past and now don't have the need to trade, or trade with another account... well, I will just say that that is a very pathetic way of justifying what you do)

Remember: these are communities. make friends, participate in the forums/irc, follow trackers' rules and you will never have to trade for anything.

[wheeloftime]

i sometimes find it very amusing, when traders realize, that they reached the end of their blind alley.
they tried so hard, got scammed, banned and broke every tracker's rule just to find out that they won't get into the tracker they want by trading.

that must be so frustrating.


so here's a message to all newcomers who read this thread:

-wanna get into the greatest and best sites in the whole bittorrent world?
-wanna be a member of sites that every stupid trader dreams about?

here's the solution:

don't trade!

even those trackers and communities you think are impossible to get in are looking for good and trustworthy new members all the time.

if you trade and break rules you will never get there - never!

If you have a fast connection and can buffer enough accounts it is easy to get all the trackers you want through trading.
I stopped trading not because I reached the end of a blind alley or because I couldn't get the accounts I wanted.
My problem with trading in the end was that I never really felt comfortable with the accounts themselves. If I had a traded account I was stuck with whatever username it came with and for me 'Fuckdiebitch' wasn't a name I wanted people to know me by.
If the account came from an invite then 6 months down the line, when I have happily built up a nice buffer, the account gets banned because the guy who gave me the invite gets caught trading. Then there is the previous owner of the account who decides he wants it back etc.