The Oldest Religion In The World.

**thewizeard** · 07-26-2003, 03:29 PM

@Lynx: you will have have to wait for the twelfth link, then all will become 'clear'!!

**hobbes** · 07-26-2003, 05:38 PM

Originally posted by Rat Faced@26 July 2003 - 11:33

Gods/God do not exist they are dreamed up by Humans to control, comfort and explain there existence to themselves.

Prove it.

The burden of proof is in your court.

The null hypothesis is that "God does not exist", you must prove he does.

I believe that we are all controlled by invisible unicorns from alpha-centari, Jesus was a unicorn surrounded by a force-field to make him appear human.

Is it fair for me to make you prove me wrong? Or is it more equitable that I come forth with some sort of evidence to prove my claim?

The Bible certainly is not proof, just a compilation of stories and personal observations.

To Nigel:

I agree with you that ignorance gave birth to fear, but I think "FEAR" is still the first religion.

**I.am** · 07-26-2003, 06:24 PM

@nigel, you have some interesting thoughts.
To some extent I agree. I see what you are saying...

But that brings us back to the main philosophical question, "What is religion." Is atheism a religion as one pointed out? Is ignorance a religion ?

I contribute what I read somewhere. Hinduism was never a religion when it started, contrary to what many believe. It started as a way of life, practiced by many. Some sort of rules to govern the society and to have a better cultural and social community. Later it was accepted as a religion by many ignorant and then the fear factor was spread by the priests or "Pandits." It never started based on fear.

Nevertheless, I dont want to jump to a new topic "what is religion." Instead continue what you were explaining. It sure is interesting to hear someone else's thoughts.

**Rat Faced** · 07-26-2003, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by hobbes+26 July 2003 - 17:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (hobbes @ 26 July 2003 - 17:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rat Faced@26 July 2003 - 11:33

Gods/God do not exist they are dreamed up by Humans to control, comfort and explain there existence to themselves.

Prove it.

The burden of proof is in your court.

The null hypothesis is that "God does not exist", you must prove he does.

I believe that we are all controlled by invisible unicorns from alpha-centari, Jesus was a unicorn surrounded by a force-field to make him appear human.

Is it fair for me to make you prove me wrong? Or is it more equitable that I come forth with some sort of evidence to prove my claim?

The Bible certainly is not proof, just a compilation of stories and personal observations.

To Nigel:

I agree with you that ignorance gave birth to fear, but I think "FEAR" is still the first religion. [/b][/quote]
Not at all.

A "Fact" was stated.....where is the evidence?

I havent declared the Bible fiction, despite my not being a Christian.... I certainly cant prove such a thing, so i dont state it as fact.

As this was a Statement of Fact, i want his evidence..

**junkyardking** · 07-27-2003, 05:06 AM

God/Gods do not exist and this easily proven because the fact is that all belief around such ideas is created and reinforced by humans of which they have no proof or fact and to back this up most if not all religions are merely based on some writing from scrolls to books which are claimed to have been written from the instruction of god/gods, but if you examine the writing it's clear they are only written by humans were they have written there own ideals, dreams and there take of certain events, also the writings have traits that are clearly human like predajuce and contradiction of which there god/gods are supposedly free from.

Of course if you ever challenge a believer there always resort to faith, but retreating into faith is a sign of fear that there comfort blanket is being ripped beneath them.

If you want physical proof that god does not exist I can not provide it, why?
Because I can’t have physical proof of something that has never existed.

**tralalala** · 07-27-2003, 07:28 AM

guys, guys, the 3 major religions came in the following order : Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Jewish calendar shows we are now in the 5700 or so year, according to the christian calendar we are in the 2003 year. and the Islamic religin started around 500 BC.
these are FACTS and theres nothing you can do about it if you dont wanna admit it.

tralalala

and one more thing: people believe in gods because they wanted someone to believe in that created them. why? cos we are (or we think we are) the only living beings in the universe and humans wanted a reason. so they practiced religion.

**MagicNakor** · 07-27-2003, 07:53 AM

You're conveniently forgetting Hinduism, Shinto, argueably Buddhism, and Sikhism. Hopefully you aren't saying that there are only three major religions in the world.

**tralalala** · 07-27-2003, 08:00 AM

those other four are also kida "Major" but not as major as the 3 i mentioned before (correct me if i am wrong).
plus, those you just mentioned are much "younger" than the 3 major ones.

tralalala