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    Originally posted by MetroStars@24 July 2003 - 22:25


    But a lot of nations now r playing sum amazing Soccer, take Wales for example thier doing amazingly well...
    WE ARE

    about bloody time!
    ice ice baby

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    WE ARE

    about bloody time!
    LOL

    If Wales carry on the way thier going they will qualify for everything

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    Originally posted by MetroStars@24 July 2003 - 23:48
    WE ARE

    about bloody time!
    LOL

    If Wales carry on the way thier going they will qualify for everything
    we hope
    ice ice baby

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    Untill they play the Netherlands!

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    the r good Netherlands bu the US would beat them

    USA 4 - Netherlands 0

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    Football as we know it was invented in England. It's true, I'm a Scotsman and would never normally give the bugger's credit for anything . We can only be credited with golf (As far as I'm aware). They also invented Rugby, Tennis and Cricket (I think!!!&#33.

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    Decide for yourselves!



    Where is the home of football?

    Is England really the home of football or can another big football nation stake a better claim? Find out what our four experts think.

    Read the case for the other countries;
    > The England argument
    > The Brazil argument
    > The Global argument

    Scotland invented football

    The love of your life has a past you don't know about.

    The English myth

    In 1863 the London Football Association was founded with their London rules and were ignored by everyone else. Sheffield had the oldest two clubs in the world and their Sheffield rules. Most other English cities had their own rules too.

    The English game was odd. Dribbling was important, passing was not. You got the ball and ran for your opponents’ goal.

    Things were a little different in Scotland. Since the sixteenth century at least, passing and running had been the proper form of football for Scots.

    Scotland founds modern world football

    In 1872 Queen’s Park FC hosted the world’s first international against England. It was played at the West of Scotland Cricket Ground in Partick, Glasgow.

    I would have loved to seen the English players coming to tackle the Scots. They must have been amazed and confused when the Scots simply passed their way around the England players.

    The ‘Scotch Professors’

    The English clubs started importing players to teach English players the passing and running game. They called them ‘Scotch Professors’. When England was still divided over which set of rules to use, Scotland had the Scottish Football Association (SFA), one set of rules for Cup-ties and one style. The SFA was the world’s first true national association.

    The English FA fought to stop the Scottish game taking over. They lost. It’s funny then how you will read how the ‘combination game’ of passing and running was perfected by Preston North End in England, they had eight Scots in their team! You will read that the Brazilians learnt football from the English (no they didn’t: Archie McLean was from Paisley near Glasgow) or that England invented football. Why spoil a good story with the truth?

    Thank you Scotland

    Scotland was in the right place at the right time and was the right size to perfect the modern world game and export it to all corners of the globe.

    All hail to World Football: the Scottish Game.

    Ged O’Brien, December 2002
    Ged O’Brien is the Project Director for the Scottish Football Museum, based at the Hampden Park National Stadium in Glasgow

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    Originally posted by MetroStars@25 July 2003 - 00:20
    the r good Netherlands bu the US would beat them

    USA 4 - Netherlands 0
    ye, usa are a very under-rated team.. which can beat any team in the world
    ice ice baby

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    I think Soopaman's summary is excellent.

    Did England invent two teams kicking some sort of ball around and putting it between two posts? Of course not, that sort of game would be invented anywhere in the world.

    Did England create (not invent) the modern game of football (soccer if you prefer)? Most certainly, but of course it would not have been quite so popular if it were not for the fact that there is a natural tendency to create this sort of game anyway.

    Edit: Having seen Nigel123's summary, I think he misses the vital point. Certainly, Scottish players may have been better at football than English players at the time, but it was the implementation of a proper Football Association which lead to the formalised (albeit slightly different) rules of football that we know today.
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    @Lynx, Now you've gone and spoiled everything!

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