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    Quote Originally Posted by Sextent View Post
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    the jist of it was that omniscience precludes choice because he already knows what he will do whereas someone who is omnipotent can choose to do whatever he wants hence the paradox.
    That sounds like the kind of pish a poet would come away way.
    I think the difficulty is that the more you think about omniscience the more impractical it becomes. In essence time doesn't exist and every moment past, present and future is known in one timeless whole.

    Least that is how I view it
    Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum


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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sextent View Post

    That sounds like the kind of pish a poet would come away way.
    I think the difficulty is that the more you think about omniscience the more impractical it becomes. In essence time doesn't exist and every moment past, present and future is known in one timeless whole.

    Least that is how I view it
    The religious would argue that we understand God's omniscience about as well as your average hun understands how to work a bar of soap. In other words, not at all.

    That's the thing about stuff, we always consider it through our own intelligence and experience. I for one feel ill able to understand omniscience.

    That's really why it all boils down to faith, for now. And also why the idea of a proof of God's existence has not been found. Maybe it's there, we just aren't able to see it yet. Newton would have thought the quantum effects to be more magic than science.

    As we stand on the shoulders of giants and the tower gets taller who knows what we may see.

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    That is to say that omniscience precludes omnipotence which isn't progressively veritable, like.

    You could be omniscient without feeling the need to intervene.

    You could also feel the need to intervene without possessing omnipotence.

    Either way, god is a bit of a cunt, given that he's one or the other.

    Edit: Or both.
    Last edited by chalice; 12-19-2007 at 09:29 PM.

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