For A L L That Use P2p Or Share Files

[dmorgan89]

Yes so you are a hypocrite. But your not the only one. You think artists don't get free stuff. Artists have something we don't "fame". And that is thier excuse to get something free. Just because their famous they think it's ok to get something free, but no one else can.

Look... when you see artists like Justin Timerlake, and Dr. Dre and Metallica. Thier driving mercedes benz, they have huge houses and blow all their money on weed and diamonds. Yet they still have millions in banks. I'm not saying thats bad or anything. It's thier money and they can do what they want with it. But when artists have all that for them then the fans just don't think it's right for them to go suing afterwards.

Hypocrite.
Dr. Dre sues napster for copyright infringement. Dr. Dre gets sued for copyright infringment. Sure Dr. Dre is a very talented artist and producer, but being famous doesn't give him the right to break the law, but we don't get to. Most artists do drugs and smoke weed. They're breaking the law. Do you ever see any of them in jail for it. Few.

Oh and politicians do not ignore these letters. Back in the napster case, i emailed my politician and got a response back.

[RealitY]

Originally posted by Mr.Maniotis@28 July 2003 - 14:55
These email form letters are ignored by politicians. You would have better results taking the gist of it and mailing it seperately.

And the RIAA is doing the right thing. They are protecting the rights of those who create this stuff. The free ride has to end at some point. No one OWES you anything. If you are downloading copyrighted music/movies without paying for them, you are taking without compensating - even if you share with others - especially if you share with others.

Do you expect to be paid for the work you do? I would think so.

Why don't you admit it. Enjoy your free ride while you can, but don't denegrade the people who are trying to see to it that the rights of the producers of the products you enjoy get paid for it. Whether you like their fees or not. Saying it's too expensive is rationalization. You are looking for an excuse to get something for nothing.

You know what? I do download/share some songs. But I'm a hypocrite. At least I admit it. When it has to end, I will accept it as something that should have been done.

There, that won't get anyone riled. Nope. Not a chance....

Where do I START...

Ok, were all hypocrits and criminal etc..
Blah Blah....

I DON"T CARE OR GIVE A...
Though I may even agree

It's not my stand here, I WILL wriite these SOB's because I do not feel that how this is being dealt with LEGALLY is approprate. The F**KERS at the AA have been offered many functional alternatives that are revenue generating and have refused all. Money is not nessisaraly their real issue, I think power is, since as the dinasour they are becoming, if artist start marketing directly they will be truly left empty handed.

Its just like when they tried to put radio out of business, betamax, tapes and so forth, and I imagine Congress will have to step in AGAIN (not the first time) and find or force a solution down these pigheaded retards throat, just like Congress did with the radio issue. This is why contacting your elected officials IS important.
I DON'T WANT TO BE A CRIMINAL OR FEEL LIKE ONE, NOR DO ICARE FOR THE IDEA OF LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER WITH PARANOIA.

Truth is I have had alot of the same feelings as you have stated, this is why I am looking towards a SOLUTION...

I am NOT here saying...
"CD's are to expensive dude" or
"Why pay for it if I can get for FREE" or
"We are stealing money out the artist pocket"
This CRAP offers NO solution, and frankly the first two are no better tahn what the AA is doing either.

I would hope that you had read http://www.eff.org/share/compensation.php, there are very effective SOLUTIONS there, the one I liked, and thought was is very appropriate, was "Bandwidth Levies".

In addition, as to "enjoy it untill it ends"...
I will tell you when that will happen, but first...
Consider all the cracks and corners of the internet that this exsists
Consider all the things on the horizon yet to come
Consider areas where this could never be stopped

Thus a simple answer...

NEVER

[DarkBlizzard]

Originally posted by 3rd gen noob+25 July 2003 - 13:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3rd gen noob @ 25 July 2003 - 13:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-REALITY@25 July 2003 - 19:28
1. Please read through it completely. There were many alternatives posted there, I would imagine we can decide on whats best later. I thought the idea of a licensing fee, similar to radio, at the ISP level may be good, though there were several ideas.

2. These people effect many of us including Australia and the UK, and others abroad, and it is in A L L our benifit to try and resolve and put this this to an end.

1. even the thought of a fee for filesharing is surely totally against the concept of filesharing itself? even if there are other alternatives, the main ones are paying for the service. why pay for something free??

2. the letter to mr congressmen is only available in the us. [/b][/quote]
Well duh....the RIAA is a USA Orgazition....not british or switz or something. So even if u live somewhere else send it&#33;

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by DarkBlizzard@29 July 2003 - 07:26
Well duh....the RIAA is a USA Orgazition....not british or switz or something. So even if u live somewhere else send it&#33;

why send it if it&#39;ll have no effect?

[Generationace]

I sent my letter in and I am posting this link all over every forum I know so that

1. more people can join this forum
and
2. More peeps can send in their letter.

I run variouse websites and I put the link to this post on every1 of them eventhough my boss might catch a shitfit but he cant fire me I really hope we can all make a difference. Also we all wish we could keep P2P free but with money hungry pigs runing the country it wont happen so if we whant to keep P2P alive we may have to compromis. I mean whats &#036;5 a month? &#036;5 a month from lets say 60,000,000 users is &#036;300,000,000. Hopefully they will be happy with this. Well enough of my babling off to spread the word I go&#33; B)

[Generationace]

hmmmmm...... I wonder. Whst would happen if I went and took all my friends info and sent in letters for them.

Even futher if printed about half a mill of these letters (from work ) and and handed them out with a preaddressed envelope with e-postage (also from work B) ) and asked people to just put their signatuer in and mail them.

Even further>> going in to mail databases (from work :flame: ) and wending a letter in for every singel person on the list.

Even further going online and hacking additional lists and sending a letter for every single person there.

I say that would increase the ammount of letters in.
I can also go around town and take addreses and make up names and send in more letters. See I live in NYC so I can do that (many appartment buildings )

[bobfred]

Hey, I would sign the letter, but:
1. I live in England, so some U.S. senator wont give 2 shits about me.
2. Im really gonna give my name and address so its easier for the record industry to find me.

Sharing music came about because of the extortionate prices that record labels put on their music, if the industry reduced the price of an album, more people would buy music and filesharing wouldn&#39;t be such a problem. When are the record labels going to work this out, because until they do, I will continue to share music that is either bought or from a copied cd.

[RealitY]

Originally posted by bobfred@31 July 2003 - 11:20
Hey, I would sign the letter, but:
1. I live in England, so some U.S. senator wont give 2 shits about me.
2. Im really gonna give my name and address so its easier for the record industry to find me.

1. Point taken, then don&#39;t if you don&#39;t care to.
This is also an issue in England, address your represenatives out there or
Do nothing and wait to take up the...

@3rd gen noob...
Same goes for you, your comments are USELESS.

2. Has the LEVEL of your PARANOIA become that RIDICULOUS...

Sharing music came about because of the extortionate prices that record labels put on their music, if the industry reduced the price of an album, more people would buy music and filesharing wouldn&#39;t be such a problem. When are the record labels going to work this out, because until they do, I will continue to share music that is either bought or from a copied cd.

Though thes may be true it NO longer matters, real solutions are needed.
I believe this is more about power and control than it is about money anyway.

[3rd gen noob]

Originally posted by REALITY@31 July 2003 - 18:52
@3rd gen noob...
Same goes for you, your comments are USELESS.

that&#39;s a good thing right?



http://www.klboard.ath.cx/bb/index.php?showtopic=58209

[mj5444]

Look... when you see artists like Justin Timerlake, and Dr. Dre and Metallica. Thier driving mercedes benz, they have huge houses and blow all their money on weed and diamonds. Yet they still have millions in banks.

I would send the letter although im 13.

Boo Hoo poor artists&#33;&#33;&#33; They have money coming out there asses and almost all of them love singing anyway&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; I think that there making this huge flucking deal and there still making billions of dollars a year and they can afford people downloading there music. People will still buy albums. I buy probably an album a month and i don&#39;t have any bootleg albums. I just download music so i can listen to it over and over and then i delete it.