For A L L That Use P2p Or Share Files

[RealitY]

Originally posted by mj5444@1 August 2003 - 16:38
I would send the letter although im 13.

Then make your PARENTS do it.

@3rd gen noob...
Maybe Commom.

[FreakBoy]

What i am surprised at is that ads wernt suggested.

Millions of people use Kazaa

Do you have any idea how much you can charge for a single banner ad that would last 5 seconds and is guarenteed to be seen by 10s of millions of people? Probally as much as they charge for ads at the Super Bowl.

Thus,

Artists get paid and we get free music.

All we have to do is look at a few stupid ads

[RealitY]

Originally posted by FreakBoy@3 August 2003 - 02:36
What i am surprised at is that ads wernt suggested.

At http://www.eff.org/share/compensation.php

Ad Revenue Sharing
Sites like the Internet Underground Music Archive, EMusic.com, and Artistdirect.com provide an online space for fans to listen to music streams, download files, and interact with artists. In the meantime, these fans are viewing advertisements on the site, and the revenues are split between the site and the copyright holders.

Like radio, the money that funds the pie comes from advertisers, not consumers. But unlike radio, artists are rewarded directly. And since these sites often host a page for member artists, other payment methods are possible at the same time. IUMA, for example, compensates artists for both ad views and song downloads.

Though I don't see Sharman and the AA working out anything at the moment.

[Raven Firewing]

I know this issue with banning P2P file sharing has been going on for quite a while, but I helped out in a way about a year ago with Internet Radio. I made all the contacts needed to try and do my part in stopping the issue of charging un-godly fees for something as simple as music. Well, today I joined this site and started to read some of the other pressing issues with P2P and that really bothered me that even though musicians in their own right deserve to be compensated for their work, I don't believe that making MULTI-millionaires out of them is neccesary. They still make a very large sum of money (more than i'll ever see) with the current CD sales as it is, so why are these people getting so money hungry? EVERY single musician out there were at one time normal and not uber rich, they only had talent above the average person. So does this reason and the fact that a recording label picked them up constitute them sueing the average Joe for money he doesn't have just because he has a few downloaded songs on his computer? Ask yourself that, then take the steps neccesary to squash this bill. I did and it took almost no time at all. Much thanks to Reality for posting multiple links to these sites that greatly broadened my knowledge.

[randyleepublic]

THE FILE SHARING MANIFESTO

So now the music industry greedheads want to play rough. What’s the matter, their coke dealer won’t front anymore? Those techno-ghouls have been living high on the hog for the past 100 years and now they’re upset because the river of gold is down 10%. If they want to play rough, so can we. The only reason they can afford to pay their lawyers is because we all still buy CDs.

There is only one proper response to the file sharing attack – a complete and total boycott of all new recorded music purchases. Imagine if you got a summons in the mail. We must support our file sharing brothers and sisters. I SAY NO PURCHASES OF ANY NEW CDS OR DOWNLOADS UNTIL THEY CHANGE THE LAW ON FILE SHARING!! If you want music go to a show, or buy or trade used CDs.

Copy this and spread the word! :rtfm:

[Generationace]

I absolutly agree I constantly purchase new CD's but from now on NO PURCHASING! I will start an absolute boycott amongst my contacts and myself I sugest everyone does the same start a boycott in your local area and/or community if they can afford to sue us they really dont need the money and if they run out of money they cant sue us. Remmember every time you purchase or pay for a song you are helping them sue a fellow P2P user. its time for the RIAA to stop their S**T. This will not happen if we dont allow it. They cant force you to purchase a CD!

[randyleepublic]

Thankyou Generationace, It's nice to see that someone has some sense. As for those who are all worried about artist's royalties, they've been brainwashed. Music is a performing art - the key word here is performing. If artists want to get paid, they need to perform. Not live like ghouls on the ghosts of old echos.
Besides the whole industry is only the result of a technical glitch where it was easy to record, but difficult to copy. Those days are over. They all need to accept the new paradigm or fade away.

Consider the artists who have been most commercially successful on recordings. They have almost all been destroyed by that success. On the other hand an old dope fiend like Jerry Garcia survived for years despite his self destructive ways, largely because his recordings were not money makers and he had to tour. :rtfm:

[Raven Firewing]

You are absolutely right in your own rights to boycott the purchase of new music, be it on CD, tape, or, god forbid, LP's!! But either way you must also realize one important aspect of our nations laws and how Lawyers do business. When you decide to sue someone on a "righteous" claim, the firm decides if the risks are worth it. Basically it costs the person sueing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to file a law suit against any party, as long as the firm that he\she goes to agrees that the venture is worth the inherent risks. If they end up losing, no one is out any money except for the firm, generally speaking (different firms, different rules). If the plaintiff ends up winning the case, the defendent is liable for any and all costs of the hearing that the plaintiff filed for and the plaintiffs lawyers get a percentage of the judges ruling payment amount. So weather you boycott or not isn't the true issue here because anybody can sue anyone for damn near anything for practically nothing out of their pockets. I say, do what you must to try and stop the RIAA from banning P2P filesharing, but don't forget to take action at the governmental level or all might as well be in vain. Please take the time to ponder this and then decide if it is truely worth your while to keep a free country with a free information network, just that, FREE.

[randyleepublic]

I say, do what you must to try and stop the RIAA from banning P2P filesharing, but don't forget to take action at the governmental level or all might as well be in vain. From Raven Firewing

I don't understand what you mean here. I thought that taking action at the governmental level was the whole idea of a boycott. Each consumer votes with his or her wallet, (the only vote that counts), and the forces that actually control the government respond with real action. The manifesto says "UNTIL THEY CHANGE THE LAW ON FILE SHARING", not drop the lawsuit or some such weak appeasement. If the law is changed, isn't that action at the governmental level?
:rtfm:

[FreakBoy]

If CD sales suddenly drop the RIAA can point to it as filesharing putting the companies out of business.

If sales get too low then they could spend stampede alot of laws though Congress.