Ace Torrents

[Tanuki]

Woah I sense a battle of staffers. Brace yourselfves, people!

Readjust your battle sense. This is far from a battle. :-D

[The_Martinator]

Oh, then a chick fight?

lol

[Tanuki]

Oh, then a chick fight?

lol

Careful, or you might find yourself in a fight against two staffers.

[The_Martinator]

Well, I wouldn't want to do that. I take back everything I said.

[stoi]

Yes you could

So I suppose your servers and seedboxes pay for itself? Some day you have to teach me this trick.

A: No, Donations pay for the servers the tracker is on, but we dont have P2L

B: I dont own a seedbox

C: It is your site, you can do what the hell you want, but to say that you could not survive without P2L is Bollocks, you just need to come up with a way to get the donations without it.

[wiseD]

How about you stop acting so high and mighty and let him get on with it?

Hell, I don't even need to say this myself:

C: It is your site, you can do what the hell you want

[stoi]

Because this is an open forum, and i can say what the fuck i want.

is that ok with you?

And i was just pointing out, he said he could not survive without P2L but his best donators are those that are the best seeders, so he can survive without it, unless he is lieing through his back teeth.

and btw, if you read why darkside closed, one of the reasons was because of trackers that do P2L, members would much rather donate to trackers like that, than a tracker without it. not that i entirely agree with that, but i can see their point.

[wiseD]

Because this is an open forum, and i can say what the fuck i want.

is that ok with you?

And i was just pointing out, he said he could not survive without P2L but his best donators are those that are the best seeders, so he can survive without it, unless he is lieing through his back teeth.

and btw, if you read why darkside closed, one of the reasons was because of trackers that do P2L, members would much rather donate to trackers like that, than a tracker without it. not that i entirely agree with that, but i can see their point.

My point was that you should just let him be, and let him run his tracker how he wishes. In this case, you can't do what the fuck you want, because you have no power there.

What if someone hijacked a Blackcats thread and pointed out that in fact the fake front page is actually a load of wank, since you then post instructions on FST on how to get past it As you say, it's an open forum, so what's the point in that?

I do sympathise with your POV about P2l though. I do not think, in the long run, that it helps trackers, and is actually derogatory to the site was a whole in the end. But, P2l is popular among those that can't be arsed to keep a ratio, and sadly these days that is what the majority op for, rather than splashing out on a better connection which would actually benefit everyone. Then the overall community benefits as a result, and therefore people are more inclined to donate, having saved a few pennies from not buying upload constantly.

But, then again, if a tracker is in need of donations to stay alive, and people seem to donate more when they can get credited with upload, then fair play to them - perhaps use the money to implement new features etc, which will encourage more donations in the future

[cinephilia]

Tanuki, please just answer this question if possible:

Edit: you just said that most of your donators are your best sharers, so if that is the case, why do you need it???

[Tanuki]

cinephilia,
Ace Torrents does not only have to pay for the server, which runs our tracker, but we also have several seedboxes online. In the last years, whenever AceT grew enough and got more donations we rented additional seedboxes or added new storage space. At the moment we are still lucky when we get enough donations to get even with our costs each month.

Of course we could rent a seedbox less or do without another hard disk, but it always hurts to have to delete a good pack just because we reach the limit of our storage space. And saying that most of our donators are also our best sharers does not imply any absolute amount of money. It just says that a certain group of our members likes our community enough to support us in more than one way.

Another group does not want or cannot seed for one reason or another. Instead of excluding them, we offer them the opportunity to help us in their way, e.g. donating money for a certain time of allowed h&r. If someone does not like the notion of paid downloads without seeding back, he might view this groups donations as partial payments for our seedboxes which gives them a claim of a part of the boxes uploads. So in a way everybody on AceT is seeding back and everybody benefits from our constantly improving infrastructure.