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    Quote Originally Posted by krunktastic View Post
    It's basic economics, supply and demand. There are so few invites to FTN, so high demand for invites is the result.

    if that's economics then I'm literally a chicken

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    Quote Originally Posted by krunktastic View Post
    It's basic economics, supply and demand. There are so few invites to FTN, so high demand for invites is the result.
    speaking about ecomomics you are almost right. but you are missing one effect.

    a rare commodity as itself doesn't result in a higher demand. that would mean i could lower my production to raise the demand - nonsense.

    from an economic point of view ftn invites would be a typical veblen good.

    the veblen effect in general: the higher the price for a good, the higher the demand. (often for high-status goods)

    so ftn: demand>supply-->rare good--->higher price--->veblen effect-->higher demand.

    since invites are free and don't have a price it's stupid to treat them in economical terms anyway.

    so this is just a little excursion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polarbear View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by krunktastic View Post
    It's basic economics, supply and demand. There are so few invites to FTN, so high demand for invites is the result.
    speaking about ecomomics you are almost right. but you are missing one effect.

    a rare commodity as itself doesn't result in a higher demand. that would mean i could lower my production to raise the demand - nonsense.

    from an economic point of view ftn invites would be a typical veblen good.

    the veblen effect in general: the higher the price for a good, the higher the demand. (often for high-status goods)

    so ftn: demand>supply-->rare good--->higher price--->veblen effect-->higher demand.

    since invites are free and don't have a price it's stupid to treat them in economical terms anyway.

    so this is just a little excursion.
    Free is not necessarily true: the "price" is determined by what people will give for an invite, and in terms of the value, this could be monetary (seedbox) or it could be other invites. In this respect, invites aren't free. When a commodity sits at equilibrium price/quantity and supply goes down, demand increases. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krunktastic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Polarbear View Post

    speaking about ecomomics you are almost right. but you are missing one effect.

    a rare commodity as itself doesn't result in a higher demand. that would mean i could lower my production to raise the demand - nonsense.

    from an economic point of view ftn invites would be a typical veblen good.

    the veblen effect in general: the higher the price for a good, the higher the demand. (often for high-status goods)

    so ftn: demand>supply-->rare good--->higher price--->veblen effect-->higher demand.

    since invites are free and don't have a price it's stupid to treat them in economical terms anyway.

    so this is just a little excursion.
    Free is not necessarily true: the "price" is determined by what people will give for an invite, and in terms of the value, this could be monetary (seedbox) or it could be other invites. In this respect, invites aren't free. When a commodity sits at equilibrium price/quantity and supply goes down, demand increases. Simple as that.
    qft. i agree that invites are not free. free would mean that anyone could go get one out of some source. not everyone can get invites, so they are not free.
    just a guy who doesn't like to pay for movies....or video games...or software...or television...or music...you know, just like everyone else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krunktastic View Post
    When a commodity sits at equilibrium price/quantity and supply goes down, demand increases. Simple as that.
    Are you saying the quantity demanded goes up, or the demand itself goes up? It doesn't follow that either should increase just because the supply decreases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krunktastic View Post
    In this respect, invites aren't free.
    not free for the trader, but free for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polarbear View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by krunktastic View Post
    In this respect, invites aren't free.
    not free for the trader, but free for me
    They should be free, that's for sure. Free for me also

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    and how did this turn out to be an argument of economics...I think the OP's questions has already been answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiantian View Post
    and how did this turn out to be an argument of economics...I think the OP's questions has already been answered.
    Not an argument, a discussion.

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