ITS just to let you all know

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how come no one reads/quote this rule...its there in all the torrent sites..oh yeah rules should be followed only when U want them to be followed..... if some one wants to follow the rules then FOLLOW THE RULES i really like ITS..,what these few anti trading members of ITS are not yet aware of is the number of traders who are already into ITS...of course that doesn't mean they would trade their ITS account or invite but they have trading history ...FST had a lot to do with ITS being hyped,they might deny it now....i had been to ITS IRC channel, before ITS became ITS...guess what there were 3 members...AND THE 3 MEMBERS WERE STAFF....of course the staff were a lot friendly back then and they even sent me an invite even after i mentioned i had traded in the past....which i never used(i can post screen shot of the ITS invite i never used) soo its not like because some members here claim they wont let traders in and traders can never get into ITS,even if they do oo get into ITS they wont be welcome the account will get disabled sooner or later,its just talking crap.....ITS invites are not traded because that particular member choses not to trade it...not because its there in the rules page instead of flaming here on FST about ITS invites being traded a better suggestion for the community rep would be to create an awareness among the already members not to trade...because some people here are just spamming this to a whole new level.

[pone44]

it is official then. sorry D.

[Something Else]

It would probably be quicker to list the sites that DO allow giveaways in public of their invites. I think you will find it's a short list.

[pone44]

benchez- probably, but would be clear if some were officially put in a thread then bans-ect would create maybe a bigger mess? thats why i asked. A thought is all prob a lame one but?

[Detale]

AHHHH Love these huge posts

Debate time

I know you saw this coming so ill lay it out for ya:


Invites are allowed to be traded per FST rules....however, tracker rules STRICTLY PROHIBIT INVITE TRADING.


Just so people dont think that iTS supports traders...as obviously we dont! Fst wont allow any tracker to prohibit its invites from being traded here, hell trackers are lucky if they can get their accounts to be blocked from trading ...because every tracker would want it that way and then noone would come here

Dude you as many others know I LOVE debates but this IS NOT a debate, this is me stating a rule no debate needed here. Now what is debateable as I see it are two points:

1. ITS isn't as involved in anti trading as you would lead others to believe, by having a CR here they ARE allowing invite trades so in an indirect way are in fact supporting trading...

Tracker rules are for the tracker but FST rules are for here Trackers must make a quiet exception about FST and our members. This is something that Feeling decided not to do and thats why he is not a CR( this is not an invitation to bash him, he is a good guy with opinions of his own so leave him be where he cannot defend himself)

2. "tactics as you call them, are they justified?

In my opinion HELL NO they are getting out of hand, I am currently discussing with other members of staff if this should be allowed to go on.

no one care about it

If noone cared then a forum mod wouldnt of had to post a thread like this one to tell people that you can trade any invites here...

However, just like any other community tracker, every single request is posted in a thread on the site, where users are blacklisted.

So if you request a invite and bring bad publicity...you essentially get yourself banned from getting an invite.

Since the tracker only has 10-15 users that are allowed to get invites...all of which have all your pathetic trade offers already....no invites will ever be traded here.

People can go ahead and request, however you wont get it. Thats the truth...so you should know.

Some people can complain that it is spam or annoying, but I am not personally attacking anyone, I just point out that traders are not welcome in the tracker, I post the current amount of invites out and who has them, and I post reasons why requests for it will just cause invites to become more rare and restricted to even less members. Spam or factual information presented to better inform OP about the current situation of invites and that trading will not get them into the site...

If you post a trade for FSC or FTN or any other high level tracker...I will say the same thing in there as well. So I do treat it like other trackers, don't think I am just defending iTS.

I personally know each person who has an invite right now and I can assure you that no invi

@predateur Please try and keep the comments constructive or at very least funny, Thanks

@FC

Where to begin..... 1st
However, just like any other community tracker, every single request is posted in a thread on the site, where users are blacklisted

This type of behavior kind of goes against the CRL as CR's and their staff are supposed to make an exception for FST members and their activities here. Making a blacklist of cheaters would I guess be acceptable. Also I find this ironic in that alot of trackers HATE the WTAW thread because the sites want their annonimity yet they will keep a "list" of users Hmmm smells like BS to me.

Some people can complain that it is spam or annoying, but I am not personally attacking anyone-True

I just point out that traders are not welcome in the tracker- Bull5hit

I could search you post and show a bunch of quotes that show you saying "ITS trading is not allowed", not just pointing out, to be fair it's not just you I don't want to single you out here although you seem to be leading the charge most of the time but there are others who do the same.

however, tracker rules STRICTLY PROHIBIT INVITE TRADING

no one care about it

Until they get banned.
I don't trade as Detale, if somebody wants to d oit, iTS, or not, I advise no to, but I'm not God and I don't care if somebody is banned for trade.
But I like to help people, and if there is a risk of being banned because of trade, I just tell them that.
Other way, its easier to get in sharing, so I also advie that some times.

If people don't cares, I can't do anything else and I won't care too, but to be respected, BitTorrent World must respect him too.

Yes there is another edge to the sword as well, I personally don't like acct trading I feel it's dishonest, I think invite trading is fine BUT, you still must respect the tracker rules as best you can. The way I see it if you are trading for an acct you are looking for a buffer that you can leech from said tracker until the ratio drops to 1:1, also don't people want their own identities? I know I always did. It is the trackers responsibility to make the "trading" exception for FST members.

Lock this thread. pls.

Um in case you didn't notice it I am a BT mod here and I started this thread and Im pretty sure none of my fellow staffers would close it on me. This is something I have noticed and I feel it needs some public attention so if you don't mind I will continue.

Peace and Love and Unity to everybody.

Helpful as usual, you should really say something here bro, how you feel either way.

A mod with a pair of balls , Detale my respect for you grows and grows .....

Other mods here have balls too not just me. Oddly enough I have a tattoo of the word "Balls" on my right forearm, thats my nickname where Im from because when I was younger I didn't give a fu*k how big the other guy was. I'll get a pic of it.

This is the reason i didnt become a CR for so long, and we dont even have Invites atm.

Community Reps Layout

The Staff at FST does not believe invite trading is an issue. We’ve found most BT staff we’ve spoken with agree on this. Sites that have issue mostly don’t have them or keep them limited. It’s strange to have invites and then chase and ban those trading them. Many sites give invites to members as a reward for participation, and its clear some members want them to trade and get into other sites.

We’re aware some sites might not agree on this policy, though it’s the policy we’ve chose to take. If you’re here to ban invite traders, don’t ask for “Community Rep” rank on the site. Its better you choose to be a rouge element, although if this is road you choose you will be dealt with as such.

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Summary
We believe this approach with “Community Reps” will bring the community closer together. If you agree to the above you may contact FST Staff to request Community Staff rank...

Just trying to point out, that if a staff member from a site is a CR on here, they can not ban members from here trading invites.

I had weeks contemplating this rule with my staff.

First of Stoi Sorry bout you stars man I sent Reality a PM last week but forgive him he is an insanely busy dude. I will send him another PM

Absolutely the truth and Im glad you are a CR here now.


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actually i asked Detale this when i got offered the job, and no they cannot(or they are not supposed to anyway).

I am not trying to make any enemies here with other trackers, far from it, but i do think if you expect your members to follow your rules on your tracker, that if you do accept a CR position you should follow the rules of FST.

Maybe im in a minority though on this lol

I would say minority in caring about it.

As I have mentioned before, staff take the CR position in order to better serve the community. FST just throws that in inorder to make users think that they wont be busted for trading.

I know that most sysops ARE strongly against invite trading, however they thought that having a community rep here for general help to members was important.

This lame rule is like the fine print on a contract...

"By becoming a community rep, youll be an asset here and help users with problems with your tracker.*"

Dude "minority in caring about it!?" It would appear that you are trying to speak for the entire BT community now? MANY MANY sites don't even care about acct trading let alone invite trading. Stoi you are not in the minority in fact I did a quick review of staffers I know on the CR list and most agree with the CRL whole heartedly.

"Lame rule" Im sorry I missed that one care to post a link to it? Here is a few rules if you care to quote one

We’re aware some sites might not agree on this policy, though it’s the policy we’ve chose to take. If you’re here to ban invite traders, don’t ask for “Community Rep” rank on the site. Its better you choose to be a rouge element, although if this is road you choose you will be dealt with as such.

and another one here

There may be occasion when a Community Rep appears to just take action against members. We will deal with each instance of this type as it surfaces. We will NOT tolerate being taken advantage of. Their presence is not to create a battle zone but to assist in joining communities

If it was up to me, nobody at all would post in iTS threads and they'd just be quietly laughed at.

It is up to you ...on your tracker, here you have agreed to let invite trades and their traders alone, You have kept your end of the deal and I applaud that but lately I have read a few posts that kind of promote the behaviors of others that could be considered to be "strong arming" or intimidating posts that some members make saying "invite trades are not allowed" and that isn't the rule and not exactly fair IMO either.

okey, iTS trading si allowed, but first you need two things:

a) a trader who is on iTS
b) a trader so stupid, that he ask staff for invite and trade it here ...

and If they finds you, you will ged banned, but not only on iTS ... on most of your trackers ...

If you think ITS is void of traders or ex-traders then that would be an amazingly ignorant comment. We have infact had a few, not many but a few successful invite trades here with ITS I have middlemaned 1 myself.

" and If they finds you, you will get banned, but not only on iTS ... on most of your trackers ..."

Again if this is found to be true this would be against the CRL, also don't go throwing other trackers around too many trackers are fighting with each other too much to get together on a thing like this so stop the bull5hit. the Idea of the legendary "Global Ban" should be an option but it lacks the power of all trackers everywhere geting together and agreeing.

But there's nothing in the rules to stop members posting their opinions and what might or might not happen, just as certain CRs do, and if they post things like "not a good idea mate" or "you will be hunted, caught & banned", then they can, that is if the OP did not close the thread.

And before posters start crying spam, then they should read up on the rules of spam, posting critical comments in open threads is not spam, posting GL is considered spam.

It's a fine line pointing out the obvious and lots of members "bullying", but if you can't take the heat, then close the thread or stay out of the kitchen.

I agree that freedom of speech is key I encourage everyone to speak their mind Sarge but there have been many posts involving ITS and there are the same few members posting seemingly intimidating things to no0b members who will get scared to trade, now this kind of action is spreading propaganda about FST rules, sure as shit if I started posting Invite trading is OK on ITS forums the thread would be closed right quick... no?

I do not know this person this thread is about, but are some invites-accounts not allowed to be traded or asked for? If so there should be a clear list of what sites allow invite giveaways-trades (just a suggestion?)..? Seems some do not want this people posting bout them,i guess. Would make it clear if it said ***** can not be givin in a giveaway or traded. I do not engage-never have in trading anything ever! Sorry just wondered in some giveaways , is it worth participating in it or will it be locked-disabled because he-she wont allow giveaways-ect. Rules are rules and i respect them so i am not downing trading or anything, lost FST. Thought for a while about a clear what invite giveaways are allowed officially plus if trading invites-ect for which i care not. Rather have great giveaways.

There is it's called ****READ FIRST* // Section Guidelines \\ *READ FIRST****

Accounts That Are Not To Be Traded

• Below lists bt sites which accounts are NOT allowed to be traded.
• Note that any invite trades for these is allowed on the site.
• Trades that are NOT allowed will be edited or trashed.
• Infractions might be given for posting such threads.
• Those repeating will be locked from the section.

BCG |CZ | DevilWolfs | E**** | FSC| FTN | iPlay | iTS | NB | PP |SCL| SD |TDC | TL | WB

[thEotheroNe]

ahhhhhh... it was time, that takes on my nerves this guy who don't stop with "you're bad, you're trading" -_-

it is really childish

[willsmith099]

Debate time

I know you saw this coming so ill lay it out for ya:


Invites are allowed to be traded per FST rules....however, tracker rules STRICTLY PROHIBIT INVITE TRADING.


Just so people dont think that iTS supports traders...as obviously we dont! Fst wont allow any tracker to prohibit its invites from being traded here, hell trackers are lucky if they can get their accounts to be blocked from trading ...because every tracker would want it that way and then noone would come here

No one gives a fuck,FYI almost 99% of trackers don't agree trading but they are being traded so better go and spam ur mum

[SgtMajor]

But there's nothing in the rules to stop members posting their opinions and what might or might not happen, just as certain CRs do, and if they post things like "not a good idea mate" or "you will be hunted, caught & banned", then they can, that is if the OP did not close the thread.

And before posters start crying spam, then they should read up on the rules of spam, posting critical comments in open threads is not spam, posting GL is considered spam.

It's a fine line pointing out the obvious and lots of members "bullying", but if you can't take the heat, then close the thread or stay out of the kitchen.

I agree that freedom of speech is key I encourage everyone to speak their mind Sarge but there have been many posts involving ITS and there are the same few members posting seemingly intimidating things to no0b members who will get scared to trade, now this kind of action is spreading propaganda about FST rules, sure as shit if I started posting Invite trading is OK on ITS forums the thread would be closed right quick... no?

So traversely, threads will be locked here then right quick - yes?

Has anyone reported anybody for being abusive or bullying in threads, or is this a decision just based on "a feeling"?

Just as you defend the right to allow what goes on, I will defend the right of reply in all cases.

You should take each thread on a case-by-case basis and nip things in the bud so that clear lines are drawn, or openly respond and give a warning to the person who you consider is abusing or bullying the OP.

It could be said what you are doing as the OP of this thread is bullying 1 tracker

And secondary, but along similar lines, you've (as in FST - not you personally) allowed posters to get away with things that gave the impression to think they could post what they wanted wherever they wanted with total freedom, that has been the real problem here, and it has been carried too far in certain cases.

[peat moss]

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Other mods here have balls too not just me. Oddly enough I have a tattoo of the word "Balls" on my right forearm, thats my nickname where Im from because when I was younger I didn't give a fu*k how big the other guy was. I'll get a pic of it.




Oh great story of my life, tell me you have you a twin or cousin nicked named big boobs?

[Swayne]

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