torrents of course. Direct download links dont last too long. Besides you have to wait between donwloads, and that can be very annoying when you are downloading a splitted file.
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torrents of course. Direct download links dont last too long. Besides you have to wait between donwloads, and that can be very annoying when you are downloading a splitted file.
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Rapidshare stinks, having to wait for times in between downloads, and besides it's not supporting a private community like Bittorrent so why even bother with it.
Rapidshare is lame, it does nothing to help support or promote a P2P community, it's just private enterprise greed...
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Agree with DasFox re: wait times and community and Kyokoshin re: limited life of links. Of course, if you don't care about community and don't want to bother keeping up your ratios, RS may be great for you, especially in terms of speed.
is it just me or most individual who post their opinion actually does not have any clue at all about the actual potentials and benefits that RS can gives to its users. no disrespect guys, but even though only some of the users actually indicated that they have/ previously had a premium rs account, yet most of the individuals who posted here seems to think they know everything about RS.
r u frickin SERIOUS??? come on guys, as much as you hate to pay for the stuff that you download, you have to realize that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH, there's a cheaper one off course you still have to pay for it, and this is the solution that the internet have generously provided to us over the years- as opposed to shelling out our money to buy dvd's and cd's. still dont believe about what i'm stating here, then go ask any of major bittorent users about how much money they are spending per month for their seedboxes so that they could maintain a respectable ratios in private trackers; go ask anyone who got axx to private ftp about how much shit that they have to go through to obtain their axxs, go ask any usenet users about how much money they have to shell out per month to ensure that they could download as much as they can.
Oh yeah, the idea of community is not just limited to BT's only, where do you think RS users got their stuff from= warez forum, where do you think Usenet users got their stuff from= NZB indexer forums-notice what this forum actually offers, where do you think e-mule users got their stuff from= Forums. so yeah every downloading community have it's own community, even though the hierarchy and the way we communicate is different based on the respective downloading method. if there's no such thing as community behind these downloading methods, how do you think these thing became popular in the first place?? anyway,
anyway,, TO THE MODERATOR OF THIS FORUM, pls mate, i'm begging you, the next time you see this kind of thread-which one is better thread type- please just closed them or merge it with old thread that have similar topic, because i've noticed that over the past 2 month or so, there are at least 2 similar threads like this one, and most of the posts tend to be terse,and poll-like answers, as oppose to "real" answers
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i prefer rapidshare because of the speed and the overall availability of the content. there are many obscure files that 0-day trackers and even bigger trackers do not have...and if they do, they are seedless like watermelons.
but torrent trackers add an element of fun filesharing. there are communities and nice people and niche trackers. the level of personal involvement for me is much higher in trackers than on ddl forums. if i need something right away i use rs.com. if i have a few minutes to kill i will use a tracker
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=====> REPLY: Actually next time you talk maybe you should learn something about the history of Software Piracy and it's roots, because Rapidshare is a fairly new kid in town, that's why I don't believe in supporting it, when there is a longer running P2P Community to support which is much better.Originally Posted by bungeemirth
is it just me or most individual who post their opinion actually does not have any clue at all about the actual potentials and benefits that RS can gives to its users.
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I know close to damm near everything, been on the web since the day it started, over 20 year geek here, don't let the post count fool ya.
no disrespect guys, but even though only some of the users actually indicated that they have/ previously had a premium rs account, yet most of the individuals who posted here seems to think they know everything about RS.
======> REPLY: I know pretty much about as much as you need to know, that this is not a P2P community, that is real simple!
r u frickin SERIOUS??? come on guys, as much as you hate to pay for the stuff that you download, you have to realize that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH, there's a cheaper one off course you still have to pay for it, and this is the solution that the internet have generously provided to us over the years- as opposed to shelling out our money to buy dvd's and cd's. still dont believe about what i'm stating here, then go ask any of major bittorent users about how much money they are spending per month for their seedboxes so that they could maintain a respectable ratios in private trackers; go ask anyone who got axx to private ftp about how much shit that they have to go through to obtain their axxs, go ask any usenet users about how much money they have to shell out per month to ensure that they could download as much as they can.
=====> REPLY: Sure there are a lot of people paying the way you are suggesting, I don't disagree, but if you know how to get into a good private torrent tracker, use good P2P appz, and Torrent Search Engines, the only thing you pay for are "TIME" and "Electricity" keeping the box running to download or seed. I've downloaded for years many things without paying a penny, just a little extra in electricity for keeping my box running, so I know for a fact you can get anything out there for free, this is why I'd never pay into buying a RS account.
Oh yeah, the idea of community is not just limited to BT's only, where do you think RS users got their stuff from= warez forum, where do you think Usenet users got their stuff from= NZB indexer forums-notice what this forum actually offers, where do you think e-mule users got their stuff from= Forums. so yeah every downloading community have it's own community, even though the hierarchy and the way we communicate is different based on the respective downloading method. if there's no such thing as community behind these downloading methods, how do you think these thing became popular in the first place?? anyway,
=====> REPLY: It's not a question as to how they get and how it's contributed, it's WHERE does it come from that is the BIG FACTOR here! When you download you are downloading off of Rapidshare's servers, this is not, and let me REPEAT it, a PEER2PEER community, that is the WHOLE POINT I'm trying to make. A P2P Community has been around a lot longer then Rapidshare. RS has only been around for about 6 years. P2P has a much OLDER history for the network and applications, which extend way beyond anything that Rapidshare can even touch on. Let's get our FACTS straight, Usenet and P2P have a longer history with a bigger community!
anyway,, TO THE MODERATOR OF THIS FORUM, pls mate, i'm begging you, the next time you see this kind of thread-which one is better thread type- please just closed them or merge it with old thread that have similar topic, because i've noticed that over the past 2 month or so, there are at least 2 similar threads like this one, and most of the posts tend to be terse,and poll-like answers, as oppose to "real" answers
ALSO Young Blood, I call you this because I'm old school, REAL hack geeks never pay for pirated software, so in that fact and that fact alone, paying for Rapidshare is a disgrace to the roots of the Web!
If you want to be a REAL software geek, then you need to learn what you support and what you don't support.
This is like telling 'Stallman' we should pay for it.
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I know close to damm near everything, been on the web since the day it started, over 20 year geek here, don't let the post count fool ya.
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you was actually able to predict the impact tha t RS and other similar sites have to the way we distribute files nowadays? i'm impressed mate, b/c even myself is a bit sceptical about these sites when they first got around, and only sees it as some kind of temporary alternative to KAazaa or winmx until something better got around- you have to admit, back then when hjsplit and winrar wasnt around distributing this kind of files is kinda hard- for me- because i'm kinda clueless about using winzip. plus, the way the files was being distributed, it's kinda timely to look around for files in blogs or some specific forums
======> REPLY: I know pretty much about as much as you need to know, that this is not a P2P community, that is real simple!
ok you are right on this one, RS or Direct downloading method is by no mean a p2p community b/c they operate on the base of centralized server and not by mean connecting nodes among different computers
=====> REPLY: Sure there are a lot of people paying the way you are suggesting, I don't disagree, but if you know how to get into a good private torrent tracker, use good P2P appz, and Torrent Search Engines, the only thing you pay for are "TIME" and "Electricity" keeping the box running to download or seed. I've downloaded for years many things without paying a penny, just a little extra in electricity for keeping my box running, so I know for a fact you can get anything out there for free, this is why I'd never pay into buying a RS account.
=====> REPLY: It's not a question as to how they get and how it's contributed, it's WHERE does it come from that is the BIG FACTOR here! When you download you are downloading off of Rapidshare's servers, this is not, and let me REPEAT it, a PEER2PEER community, that is the WHOLE POINT I'm trying to make. A P2P Community has been around a lot longer then Rapidshare. RS has only been around for about 6 years. P2P has a much OLDER history for the network and applications, which extend way beyond anything that Rapidshare can even touch on. Let's get our FACTS straight, Usenet and P2P have a longer history with a bigger community!before i start to argue on this part, i wanted to ask something first; is the" box that you're referring here represent your personal computer? or is it your personal server
=====> REPLY: Actually next time you talk maybe you should learn something about the history of Software Piracy and it's roots, because Rapidshare is a fairly new kid in town, that's why I don't believe in supporting it, when there is a longer running P2P Community to support which is much better.what do you mean when you say " 2P has a much OLDER history for the network and applications, which extend way beyond anything that Rapidshare can even touch on" honestly i dont understand what you're trying to imply here??
ok, what is your take on e-mule or even irce then?? even though the files that are available on e-mule is qualitatively and quantitatively equal to the one that are available on bt- this is based on personal opinion- i havent seen anyone in Western based forums that actually advocates the use of e-mule or even irc as die hard as they would when it comes to serving torrent
ALSO Young Blood, I call you this because I'm old school, REAL hack geeks never pay for pirated software, so in that fact and that fact alone, paying for Rapidshare is a disgrace to the roots of the Web!
with all due respect pls call me a sell-out or a even a noob b/c ii paid giganews so that i can get my stuff, i dont care. i'm not in this thing so that i could gain some reputation, i'm here so that i can get the stuff that i want, even though that means i have to shell out some money. again in the end , you also have to consider the consequence. off course it is quite safe to use bt if you're the only one who's using computer, but what about if you have to share the computer it w/ someone else??? I still remeber the time when i have to flush out so much spyware, and reinstalling windows so many time just b/c my brothers doesnt have any clue about the file that they download off imesh, or winmx
If you want to be a REAL software geek, then you need to learn what you support and what you don't support.
as i said it before i dont care about trying to be a software geek, but i do care about what i should support. i support scene b/c that are the place where most of my files originated from, as for other thing i really dont give a damn, as long as it could help me to get what i want, fine i'm happy and in some sense i secretly support it , but i'm not gonna spread the word as die hard as other people around the net did, b/c if i do that i'm going to be a moron that "sing" my secret to the authority
see it is nice to have a discussion that last beyond 7 words right, it actually make this thread rather interesting
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Quote: you was actually able to predict the impact tha t RS and other similar sites have to the way we distribute files nowadays? i'm impressed mate
Sorry I wasn't predicting anything, I was just saying I've been around the net since the day it started doing the Warez scene, for a lack of better words, it's just that most people understand this name.
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ok you are right on this one, RS or Direct downloading method is by no mean a p2p community b/c they operate on the base of centralized server and not by mean connecting nodes among different computers
Yes you are paying to keep their services running, and with so many others around with a longer established history, why pay into it, when there are better means to support. Take Usenet as an example, if everyone was dumping into Rapidshare and we took that, then possibly we could develop other areas of Usenet, and P2P better, and then maybe not. Also a lot of this gets back to what is called Geek Pride, some peeps are only going to drive a Chevy and say DIE to Fords, if you catch my drift here...
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before i start to argue on this part, i wanted to ask something first; is the" box that you're referring here represent your personal computer? or is it your personal server
PC, not a server. The average P2P user is just sharing on his PC, but now there is a newer generation of users going with 'Seedboxes' to get better bandwidths, especially in the torrent circles to help with their upload/ratios
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what do you mean when you say " 2P has a much OLDER history for the network and applications, which extend way beyond anything that Rapidshare can even touch on" honestly i dont understand what you're trying to imply here??
Peer2Peer the Networks and the applications have a longer history then Rapidshare...
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ok, what is your take on e-mule or even irce then?? even though the files that are available on e-mule is qualitatively and quantitatively equal to the one that are available on bt- this is based on personal opinion- i havent seen anyone in Western based forums that actually advocates the use of e-mule or even irc as die hard as they would when it comes to serving torrent
Emule had something there that people jumped on when it came out, it was fresh and new, and when that happens people jump on it, but in all honesty the network can be really slow when it comes to downloading and getting something.
I use to download off of IRC, fservers, xdcc, yes if you can get into nice private IRC channels, I'd imagine they are still around you can get apps this way. I got into the IRC download scene when it was starting years ago, there were servers and channels all over the place to download apps off of, but sometimes speeds weren't that great.
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with all due respect pls call me a sell-out or a even a noob b/c ii paid giganews so that i can get my stuff, i dont care. i'm not in this thing so that i could gain some reputation, i'm here so that i can get the stuff that i want, even though that means i have to shell out some money. again in the end , you also have to consider the consequence. off course it is quite safe to use bt if you're the only one who's using computer, but what about if you have to share the computer it w/ someone else??? I still remeber the time when i have to flush out so much spyware, and reinstalling windows so many time just b/c my brothers doesnt have any clue about the file that they download off imesh, or winmx
No problem to want to get something, we all want to get something, but taking the Hit N Run approach, sooner or later you're going to see that you can only get so far. If you have a good ISP, then you'll have free Usenet access with them, not the greatest speeds and retention, but at least you'll be able to grab somethings once and awhile for free. Then there are many great Torrent search engines, then private torrent trackers, and your other P2P apps for filesharing, like the Gnutella/Fastrack world etc., with these combined you'll be getting all you want in time for free. It just takes time to build up, but once you're there, you're gold...
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as i said it before i dont care about trying to be a software geek, but i do care about what i should support. i support scene b/c that are the place where most of my files originated from, as for other thing i really dont give a damn, as long as it could help me to get what i want, fine i'm happy and in some sense i secretly support it , but i'm not gonna spread the word as die hard as other people around the net did, b/c if i do that i'm going to be a moron that "sing" my secret to the authority
Well it doesn't really have much to do with being a Geek, but the truth is, if you are trying to find things, and find what you want it takes a little bit of Geek in all of us. Perfect examples, you want to find some Office applications and you want a REAL DVD iso, not some ripped/cracked crap, that also might be full of malware as well, just learning what you are dealing with when it comes to applications and learning if you are getting REAL full version software takes time.
There is a bit of a black art to all of this when you want good software, good definition video and quality audio, etc...
Believe me there is a load of crap you can download out there too.
PEACE & Happy Hunting...
Last edited by DasFox; 02-19-2008 at 07:15 AM.
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nice fight guys but i stay with my BT and i use RS for some ebook so easy to share Little things.
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, b/c even myself is a bit sceptical about these sites when they first got around, and only sees it as some kind of temporary alternative to KAazaa or winmx until something better got around- you have to admit, back then when hjsplit and winrar wasnt around distributing this kind of files is kinda hard- for me- because i'm kinda clueless about using winzip. plus, the way the files was being distributed, it's kinda timely to look around for files in blogs or some specific forums
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