Someone pls explain why

[Squeamous]

Here's some tentacle rape.

Traditional style, so you can feel classy while fapping.

Is that it's copulatory arm in her gob? Surely for an authentic Japanese feel you need several octopi unfurling their adapted sexual tentacles and rolling packets of sperm onto her forehead?

[Squeamous]

Oh, and you gotta watch out for it's beak...they can crush shellfish with them mandibles .

[Biggles]

I don't believe Snee's position is that they were backward or ill informed either but that their reaction to US intervention was one of a people who had become accustomed to an insular view of foreign intervention. They subsequently embraced an aspect of politics that was popular at the time - Empire.

One might view the US role as liberating or one might consider it an ongoing process of securing influence in the region (or indeed a bit of both).

It's quite sweet that you want to defend him, but that's a fucked up perception! His position was that the Japanese have been badgered throughout the last few hundred years by foreign intervention against their wishes to the point where they felt they had no choice but to attack Pearl Harbour .

I think that might slightly overstate Snny's position but if doesn't he is on his own with that one. It is undeniable that Japan viewed US influence in the region somewhat unfavourably and the blockade by the US navy did cause the Edo regime to fall and a more anti-foreign (although not anti-science or technology) Government to form. This did in turn lead to conflicts with China, Russia and Korea and an increasingly powerful and successful Japanese military.

One might argue that this would have occurred anyway but contra-factual history is always shakey. If there had been no blockade in 1854 might Pearl Harbour not have happened? If Pearl Harbour had not happened would the US have sat out on WW2 and D Day not occurred? The Russians might have prevailed and the most of continental Europe would have come under Soviet direction. Stuff of science fiction "don't touch anything if you travel back in time" sort of thing.

[Biggles]

Oh, and you gotta watch out for it's beak...they can crush shellfish with them mandibles .

The sweet mandibles of love

[Squeamous]

I think that might slightly overstate Snny's position but if doesn't he is on his own with that one. It is undeniable that Japan viewed US influence in the region somewhat unfavourably and the blockade by the US navy did cause the Edo regime to fall and a more anti-foreign (although not anti-science or technology) Government to form. This did in turn lead to conflicts with China, Russia and Korea and an increasingly powerful and successful Japanese military.

One might argue that this would have occurred anyway but contra-factual history is always shakey. If there had been no blockade in 1854 might Pearl Harbour not have happened? If Pearl Harbour had not happened would the US have sat out on WW2 and D Day not occurred? The Russians might have prevailed and the most of continental Europe would have come under Soviet direction. Stuff of science fiction "don't touch anything if you travel back in time" sort of thing.

Phloppy's book over on t'other side is about this sort of thing. It's quite interesting.

To be honest as far as Japan is concerned, you pays your money you take your chances. You start a war with another country, no matter how much you think they deserve it, you have to stand by the consequences. I have no sympathy for them really.

[Biggles]

I think that might slightly overstate Snny's position but if doesn't he is on his own with that one. It is undeniable that Japan viewed US influence in the region somewhat unfavourably and the blockade by the US navy did cause the Edo regime to fall and a more anti-foreign (although not anti-science or technology) Government to form. This did in turn lead to conflicts with China, Russia and Korea and an increasingly powerful and successful Japanese military.

One might argue that this would have occurred anyway but contra-factual history is always shakey. If there had been no blockade in 1854 might Pearl Harbour not have happened? If Pearl Harbour had not happened would the US have sat out on WW2 and D Day not occurred? The Russians might have prevailed and the most of continental Europe would have come under Soviet direction. Stuff of science fiction "don't touch anything if you travel back in time" sort of thing.

Phloppy's book over on t'other side is about this sort of thing. It's quite interesting.

To be honest as far as Japan is concerned, you pays your money you take your chances. You start a war with another country, no matter how much you think they deserve it, you have to stand by the consequences. I have no sympathy for them really.

Absolutely! Pearl Harbour was a daft idea just as making PS3s and blue ray HDs is a brilliant idea.

However, as my darling offspring has demonstrated - they did give us the mandibles of love.

I have no idea what the original point of this argument was though as Submission originally went off on one about modern Japan and we ended up talking about the fall of the Edo regime

[Squeamous]

It was an interesting thread though. I learnt stuff.....stuff I begrudge learning natch, because those bastards irritate me so .

I trace it back to the time I watched some stupid fucking Japanese cartoon in an independent cinema and had to walk out after 2 hours because there was just no plot and no end in sight. And my friend is coming back to the UK next month and bringing his Japanese girlfriend with him. They'll probably stay at mine and she doesn't speak a word of English. So I'm a little pissed off at the Japanese right now.

[Something Else]

Can I photieshop you on to an octupus please Squeamous.

[Biggles]

It was an interesting thread though. I learnt stuff.....stuff I begrudge learning natch, because those bastards irritate me so .

I trace it back to the time I watched some stupid fucking Japanese cartoon in an independent cinema and had to walk out after 2 hours because there was just no plot and no end in sight. And my friend is coming back to the UK next month and bringing his Japanese girlfriend with him. They'll probably stay at mine and she doesn't speak a word of English. So I'm a little pissed off at the Japanese right now.

The food is nice though - I really like those Wagamama noodle restaurants.

The cartoons are an acquired taste imho although Holywood nick their horror movie ideas left, right and centre.

[Squeamous]

Yeah, it's not so bad. And I do actually have some T-shirts with Japanese on them. And I quite like a lot of their culture. OMG, I'm a self loathing Nipon-lover.