I'm getting tired from this

[dunson]

they want it because it is rare, they get there and see that a lower level tracker is just as good if not better and never use it.

I guess that makes sense. I'm curious about a few trackers that are smaller and more focused, but I guess you're right that I don't really know if they are any good let alone which one might be the best for me to seek. But still, if I got into a "better" tracker I'd think that they'd be smaller and have less noobs around, so I'd definitely use it to supplement my media cravings.

[jonny81985]

Yea i think that more people should fill requests. Sometimes I think people do giveaways for attention. Look at it this way, If you fill a request no one knows it and you dont get any credit. But if someone is requesting something they are more likely to actually use it. If you do giveaways everyone see's and you look like a "good guy". But chances are the person you are giving the invites to are probably just collectors.

I think to make this place better we should really start considering requests, especially if the person requesting is a good, up[standing, active member here. Maybe u wont get as noticed, but who cares, we should be here to help people not advertyise our kindness if u can really call it that.

Here's to saying we should defientely give privately to people who really deserve it, not publicly to get good attention for ourselves.

Just my two cents, let me know what u guys th ink

Jon

well I dont know what you saw but I saw many collectors that fill req's, collectors are collectors and they will try to touch any tracker they want.

here is some prove to you
what is the most req trackers???
all the high lv
FTN, SCT, NB, TT.....
90% of the req are those tracker that I mention

once in a while you see "ow lv req

My point is rare or not rare it really doesnt matter. I firmly believe this whole public giveaway thing is to bring attention to yourself (not u specifically, just people who do giveaways) Personally I just think it's better to offer help to people and involve yourself in good healthy conversation on the forums here. If you have invites my opinion is wait until someone requests that tracker. Dont post in the thread but do some research into their past. If u are happy with that you see, then make contact with them via pm. Maybe ask them a few questions, get a feel for whether they deserve it or not and then decide whether they want it or not.

My biggest problem is with people who do giveaways and then in their req's say "I have given a lot here so now I want to ask for x tracker. I give sct and blah blah. Well u get the point, people who give to recieve.

IMO just do it privately to help some good guys out

Jon

[Nemrod]

I made about 3 giveaways, and always the same script you tell.
Then I tried other way: to select the invitee when I saw somebody looked like he deserved. I must say that i got frustrated again.
The last try was "trusted" members... the worst experience of all, maybe because I thought it was a safe way, but it doesn´t.

Of course, I must say that we are talking about the high number of users who disappoint the inviters, but it´s also true, at least in my case, that I´ve received great satisfactions and they became extraordinary users, unfortunately this is in a very little number.

[stoi]

the other problem is.

1 tracker to you might be your gold mine, the same tracker to someone else might as well be their toilet.

there are lots of factors someone might not like a tracker.

too many users
not enough users
not enough torrents
too many torrents
wait times
# of seedboxes
how hard and even how easy it is to keep a ratio
the staff, being to strict or not strict enough
community full of e-penis members, not enough e-penis members
themes that they dont like.
waiting for freeleech and X2 upload.

the list goes on and on and on.

[GoldStoNe]

just over half the invites i've given out since i've started have gone unused (and sometimes disabled for inactivity depending on the tracker) and i've given over 100.

Woh, more than half of the invites go unused! What a waste. I've invited someone to bitme. It's been 2 weeks and he has yet to use it.. I'm beginning to have second thoughts about making my first giveaway..

My point is rare or not rare it really doesnt matter. I firmly believe this whole public giveaway thing is to bring attention to yourself (not u specifically, just people who do giveaways)

My biggest problem is with people who do giveaways and then in their req's say "I have given a lot here so now I want to ask for x tracker. I give sct and blah blah. Well u get the point, people who give to recieve.

I agree that some do giveaways just to boost their rep points so that they can get into better trackers. I notice some requires a minimum number of rep points. So a lot are tempted to giveaway low level trackers (even if some are open for signups). 1 rep point for giving say bitsoup (the most used example ) is the same as 1 rep point for giving away an invite to say ScT.

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I agree with stoi. Also I notice that a lot of people are merely curious about the high-level trackers so many people are asking for. The demand would certainly arouse interest, interest then desire. I wonder why so many people want ScT or FTN. The only way to peek what's inside is to join thru invites. [I doubt someone would share his account details just for you to check it out]. Since the main goal for some is just to satisfy the curiosity, joining a high-level tracker is their ultimate goal, and not really using it. Hence, the account is left unused. Just my thoughts.

[BlueLabel]

most people who ask for trackers such FTN SCT is only because they want to look "strong" at the tracker wrold
I know many people that have SCT and cannot use it, cause tracker like SCT requires box and if you dont have one its only metter of time untill you will be band
but still they acting as big shoot -"oh look at me I have FTN I'm playing in the big boys court now"
so most of it its only to look important

[grimms]

most people who ask for trackers such FTN SCT is only because they want to look "strong" at the tracker wrold
I know many people that have SCT and cannot use it, cause tracker like SCT requires box and if you dont have one its only metter of time untill you will be band
but still they acting as big shoot -"oh look at me I have FTN I'm playing in the big boys court now"
so most of it its only to look important

I disagree with you not all. I don't have a seedbox my ratio on ScT is around 50.000 with around 70GB ul and 2GB dl. No seedbox. I haven't been banned. So i would correct or edit some of your post (I'm just speaking from personal experience) It's about how long you seed your torrents for. I have been seeding the same torrents from sct, for about 4 months straight now, some small and others large. It's all about how much and how long you seed back.

[Night0wl]

The whole asking for speed tests is bullshit. Some of the best users have crap upload. So they don't seed to 15.0 ratio taking away other people chances of keeping ratio, but unlike the ones that seed to 15.0, they do their best in most cases.

As for public giveaways, I never do them. If I give someone an invite here, it's someone that has made an impression. Whether it's a direct request in the invites section, or just a quality post in the bittorrent section where the want/need for a tracker gets mentioned.

Ask for direct profile links.
Look at snatch list, how long they have been a member, maybe even activity in the forum, or just torrent comments which prove character.

I have had a few bad invitees as well, but the majority actually use the tracker I have invited them to.

BTW I have also been a bad invitee on one or two trackers and the reason was lack of research before asking for it, and when I got it I saw I didn't really want it.

[krunktastic]

The whole asking for speed tests is bullshit. Some of the best users have crap upload. So they don't seed to 15.0 ratio taking away other people chances of keeping ratio, but unlike the ones that seed to 15.0, they do their best in most cases.

As for public giveaways, I never do them. If I give someone an invite here, it's someone that has made an impression. Whether it's a direct request in the invites section, or just a quality post in the bittorrent section where the want/need for a tracker gets mentioned.

Ask for direct profile links.
Look at snatch list, how long they have been a member, maybe even activity in the forum, or just torrent comments which prove character.

I have had a few bad invitees as well, but the majority actually use the tracker I have invited them to.

BTW I have also been a bad invitee on one or two trackers and the reason was lack of research before asking for it, and when I got it I saw I didn't really want it.

This.

And:

Most people who say that the don't believe in rarity really DO. Plenty of people would rather have SweDVDr over TDC or ScT over SCC. The fact of the matter is that people who care about rarity will, and more sensible people won't. I can tell within 30 seconds of chatting with someone whether or not I will invite them anywhere.

[grimms]

Have to agree with you their. I should of used better judgement as far as doing invite giveaway's versus just pm'ing a member who i felt like made an impression on me and actually deserves an invite(Something i do now of course).

Only 20 percent of fst members, are worthy or trust worthy enough of 80 percent of the bt trackers being offered.

Only 20 percent of fst members, can be trusted 80 percent of the time.

Only 20 percent of fst members, actually use 80 percent of the trackers their a member of.

80/20 rule is what i go by.

If I have 80 percent or more faith in you, then you left a good impression. Which happens only about 20 percent of the time on fst.