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Interesting debate as always.
1) i choose not to comment on any of your posts and with good reason. my quote above is clearly directed at someone else because i was pretty sure people like yourself would not understand it. and as it turns out i was right.
2) i have not made any anti-trader comments nor have i flamed any trading threads, so kindly stop assuming that i subscribe to everything that has been said against you.
3) as for your example, it is extremely unrealistic.
4) i do agree with the giveaway part, people make giveaways just to show that they are good members building up reps till they make "the request"
what i want to tell you guys is, if you dont give a shit about community as you so clearly mentioned, why would you want to even get into a tracker such as iTS, ScL, FTN or FSC? the content there can be found on almost any 0day site. what makes them unique is the community and it would be best for you as well as the trackers if traders stayed out of it. obviously you have a fundamental conflict with the staff of such trackers and neither of you can be happy together!
So to you the end justifies the means, you just want to have all the trackers on the list and you should have them because...........? It doesn't really matter to you about the tracker rules or the people that put so much effort into the trackers in terms of building them and maintaining the websites and offering help when things go wrong with your a/c even helping to retrieve a/c details when 95% of the time they know full well it was an a/c trade that went wrong. These people don't count, your just there to get the latest files and screw everyone else and you should have access to every tracker because you want it and if you can't get in well you'll simply trade another a/c off to get it ?Originally Posted by stitched
Does any of this strike you as vaguely selfish ? or are you so overindulged that others opinions thoughts and efforts mean nothing ? A group of people created each of these websites and want a specific group or 'community' of people to join, they only ask a few very very simple basic rules of people that wish to be members, but that is too much for you even? why should you check out the community or post, your just there to rip the latest file, this is exactly why so many people will try and prevent you from trading , you bring nothing to the table you have no interest in being a member of these sites apart from what you can get from them..............
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ok i tot i wont post anymore in this thread justifying what i do..but he is me one last time...have you heard the phrase "people always see what they want to see",this is just the example all these anti-traders(who dont want someone to trade) they would never understand...
i never said i dont give a shit about community all i said "y would i listen to what they say and their rules if they JUDGE ME BECAUSE I TRADE "i mean i dont want these community members to be anti-traders...once i am in a community consider me as one of your own rather then an outcast, accept me for what i am ..if you dont care what i belive in, i will not care about what you belive yes i doo feel filesharing would come before community in my book, and thatz what most of the tracker site believe in (for proof refer to a few paragraphs below )....i do hang out in chat rooms, and read posts in most of the forums i am a member of i just dont post a lot...because most of the sites are judgemental no matter how good of a member i am,once they know you r trader you r out. y would i be foolish enough to lose my account over posting in the forums
as far as my movie example is concerned that is the closest comparision to a torrent site, just think about it....it makes total sense, you just are not ready to accept it because usually the example given is ...you and your friend go into a bar , you get your friend a beer and your friend (so called trader) would give it to some one neither of you dont know, and you r upset over it ...thats y trading is bad....of course anyone would say trading is bad after that example....the truth being all these things we do in real life shouldnt be compared to something virtual,movies are the closest a torrent site can be...stop thinking of movies as real....all these 300 ,star wars ,transformers no wonder they made so much money/// its like saying if you dont watch a particular movie in a particular theater, you are gay....just think about it .....
i am not saying i am not greatfull for the torrent site which lets me download stuff ,i am ....people have their own ways of showing their affection,but all i ask from them is to bare with me ,because i am a trader, well i never go to any site admin for an invite....they are given automatically because they think i am worth it, may be they should learn to trust me on who i give out the invites to,most of them have never let me down if you want proof i can show you my invite list,very few people have been disabled, it happens to every one does it not...some time you make wrong choices and some time you make right choices ....just because i trade that doesnt mean i make wrong choice every time...so many people including tracker staff... make giveaways to people they dont know ,the chances of a giveaway invites turning out to be a bad choice is the same as a traded invite being bad...its all just a matter of chance ,no one is sure about such a thing,its a gamble,i do care about my invite i wouldnt give out my invite to just some useless guy unlike the giveaways,the way i see it traders are atleast approved to be a good member in torrent sites of same level and so they would have the extra invite to trade with, a similar logic can be built about account trading.....yes all you guys see is people like me whining how the account got disable how some one scammed me and all...what you dont see is "we(traders) are like cats ,we always end up on our feet"
Does any of this strike you as vaguely selfish ? yes i am selfish totally....should that be a problem, unlike some guys who try to portray themselves as community man...i have proved it before how much of a community person are these so called anti-traders are...dont ask me to get my fact straight i wouldnt be making claims if i didnt get my fact straight..and i always try to give more then what i got back from the community and thats y i am a power user in many sites...
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its really funny how everyone of these community guys choose to ignore this....there is no torrent site which says..."if the user doesnt have XYZ posts in the forum his account gets disabled",,, its more like "if you dont have certain ratio or seed for these many hours you account will get disabled automatically"...what does that say " RATIOS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THEN NUMBER OF POSTS" "FILESHARING IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN COMMUNITY" its there in the rules, stop busting my balls because i follow the rules...try and beat this logic
yes i doo feel filesharing would come before community in my book, and thatz what most of the tracker site believe in
and please dont quote/understand my statements in half, they would mean totally different from what i said , its like taking the alphabets in a sentence and forming a whole new statement....or make assumptions about what someone feels about something like a torrent site....and dont force me to comment of your blind remarks...if you dont understand what i am trying to say then its better not comment on it...saves me time and typing
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